To the Tourism Comm. members, what do you think,,,,

Permalink · Date: Sep 20, 2007

To the Tourism Comm. members, what do you think,,,,

Permalink · Date: Sep 20, 2007

I am on Tourism, and while I think Don may have lost his cool a bit, I do think he has been a good chairman. He has watched our (actually your) money very closely. He has had many good ideas and loves Tourism and Corbin very much. Any and all decisions made by Tourism are voted on. He is but one vote on the commission, and there are 6 more of us to pick on if need be. Just my opinion, again.

Suzie Razmus · Veteran Member

Sorry, I meant to sign my name...
Suzie Razmus

Permalink · Date: Sep 20, 2007

Thank you Suze, for your comments.

When I read this thread title, I thought you might comment, and frankly, you'll probably be the only one. Thank you.

But, you never know.

Permalink · Date: Sep 20, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

I am on Tourism, and while I think Don may have lost his cool a bit, I do think he has been a good chairman. He has watched our (actually your) money very closely. He has had many good ideas and loves Tourism and Corbin very much. Any and all decisions made by Tourism are voted on. He is but one vote on the commission, and there are 6 more of us to pick on if need be. Just my opinion, again.

Suzie, I have great respect for you but it is hard to see how you or anyone else can defend the Chairman's vendetta against some people in this area. Three people I have noticed he is obsessed with are Sharea Myers, Samantha Swindler, and Bob Terrell, Jr. If Bob had turned the inflammatory emails from Don to the other newspaper or had printed them on this website it would have made Don look like a royal jerk. But Bob didn't.

Since Samantha Swindler came here, and even before that the News Journal takes shots constantly at the people at the Times Tribune. It is embarrassing to see how little he looks with his hatred for them. The News Journal has some very good people, and so does the Times Tribune.

It is obvious he does not want the Main Street program to work. He wants Sharea Myers to fail. She didn't kiss his butt when she took on that assignment
and once again that hatred of his shows through. He cast the vote to turn down the railroad car displays. Why? Because he does not like Sharea.

He was insistent along with other members of the Tourism Commission that before they were going to give money for NIBROC they would have to have details on how past funds were spent and how these funds would be spent. Suddenly that request evaporated. It was a total flip-flop. I am not faulting the Commission for supporting NIBROC. It is important to our area. But shouldn't there be an accounting for how the money is spent?

It will be interesting to see if he is able to steam roll you and other members to change your website. You have a great website but he is mad at the Terrells.
I look forward to your next meeting. We will find out if it is his show.

Permalink · Date: Sep 21, 2007

Yes Suze, why did Estep not demand an accounting by Carpenter for the money given to the NIBROC by Tourism. Since you're on the committee, and you had to vote to do so, is there and explaination.

You said yourself he has only one vote, so it took the majority to give the money to nibroc.

wkugirl · Senior Member

I think the people that are interested in this topic are waiting for the next meeting to see if the Tourism members vote with or against the chairman, regarding the website issue. If the vote goes with the chairman, then I guess we will all think it will go back to business as usual, with him calling the shots. I agree with the poster two above, that it appears he has a personal vendetta for some strange reason against Sharae, Samantha, and Bob Jr. He wants Sharae's program to fail, for reasons I cannot fathom, wants Samantha to stop writing her opinions, and simply wants Bob Jr. to go away.

I agree that Bob Jr. could show the personal email that he received from Don Estep, but he hasn't. He is trying to take the high road. I wonder if Don is afraid people will read that email. If I were him, I wouldn't want anyone to read it or know about it, as it really shows his true colors.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens at the next meeting.....

Suzie Razmus · Veteran Member

I can understand why you feel this way. For my part, I will continue to vote in a way that is consistant to my beliefs, while trying to be respectful toward other peoples opinions. As far as the NIBROC money goes, that was the one meeting I have missed in the past year, and I didn't even know it was on the agenda. I'm not saying I wouldn't have voted to give them the money, but I was surprised there was no mention of the need for an accounting. I love NIBROC and wouldn't want anything to hurt it, but just as Don wasn't free with our audit, it gives the impression there is something to hide. I truly believe there is no funny business going on with NIBROC money, it takes a lot of it for a festival to be as successful as this one.

Permalink · Date: Sep 21, 2007

Suze, do you think it was strange the nibroc money issue, which is one of the largest major contributions the tourism committee makes, was not on the agenda when it was voted on and approved. I know the other members had to vote for it, so, I'll put this to them.

Do you other members of the tourism committee have an answer. Did he push you to vote that night. Did he purposefully not put it on the agenda, thinking that without it on there, the papers may not show up to question it.

If you weren't there, you weren't there. But,the others were.

I guess it should be in the meeting minutes, shouldn't it.

Suze, who is the secretary for the tourism committee? Is it one of the members, or another person?

Permalink · Date: Sep 21, 2007

Is it true the next Tourism Commission Meeting will be held at the Civic Center because of the huge crowd that will show up?

Permalink · Date: Sep 21, 2007

I don't know, but wouldn't that be a terriffic sight, to see over 100 people interested in their town, wanting to be involved in the process. It would scare the chairman to death.

If they held the meetings at a decent time of course, not noon on a tuesday.

The reason they hold these meetings at that time, is so a bunch of people won't show up. If it were up to the chairman, he'd hold them at 2am on saturday night.

poneal · Senior Member

Wow! Such harsh words. And I suppose everybody will be in church tomorrow! A meeting with a 100 people interested in their town, wanting to be involved in the process?? Do you really think that is why all those people would be attending the meeting? Have you ever heard the expression "Curiosity killed the cat"? If all those people wanted to be involved in the process, wouldn't they already be hard at work in the process? Just curious!
Meetings at noon, whatever day of the week it may be!! Does it really make that much difference when meetings are held? I complain when I go to an auction scheduled for 10 a.m. when the working person can't attend. But you know what? The room is always full. If a person wants to do something, whether it be attending a meeting, a wedding, a funeral, or a luncheon, they usually make time to do so. Anyway, I have found that to be true.
Interesting how each person views a particular situation...........
Lexington had decorated horses all around town. The city of Toledo, OH, has Pigs all around town. And the city of Corbin wants TRAINS! Why not Redhounds?? Before you start decorating Main Street, don't you think it first needs some new businesses and upgraded storefronts to draw customers. It will take something spectacular to draw business back to downtown Main Street and away from the shopping malls.
This idea may sound a bit far-fetched for Corbin, but I've seen it in smaller towns. Have you been to a city where they have the bronze-like statues of children, animals, etc.? For instance, one small town has a flag pole in front of its post office. Standing in a circle, looking up at the flag are a group of young children, some with their hands over their hearts. It is one of the most heartwarming displays I've ever seen. Another is a baseball diamond enclosed by a wood fence. At one spot, a board has been removed and the statutes of four young children are straining to peek thru the break in the fence to watch the game.
Still yet, on one main street, in front of an ice cream shop is another bronze figure. A young boy is lying on his tummy on a bench, baseball cap turned sideways, his feet in the air, and his chin resting on his hands. He is looking down at his hounddog. If you have an imagination at all, doesn't that idea kinda warm your heart?? I have never seen one of those bronze statues that didn't make me stop and examine it. They defintely catch your eye. Folks, they are very popular and they don't block the walkways. Think about it!

Permalink · Date: Sep 21, 2007

Harsh words, not really. People didn't get involved before because they didn't know what was going on. Now, they do. And their ticked.

Meeting times, yes it does matter. If you can go to an auction at 10am, during the week, you must be retired or work a night or evening shift. Me, I work days, and I work a job where I can't go into the boss and say, "Excuse me, may I leave, without pay, to attend the tourism meeting." Funerals and tourism meetings are two different things. Unless, of course, you've never worked for anyone but yourself.

However, your statue idea is not bad. But, it needs some kind of theme, at least in my opinion. What you describe seems more random. But, it's an idea worth putting on the table and seeing where it goes. Abstract art is one idea, statues, metalwork, things like that. ( you think corbin is ready for that though)

Good thoughts, that is thinking out of the box, which is what we need.

poneal · Senior Member

   I'm not sure Corbin is ready for the abstract art, but I definitely think they would go for the other statues. Like I said, it was a much smaller town than Corbin where I saw these statues. Of course, I have no idea the cost, but if you are talking about beautification, something to last many lifetimes, things that will appeal to people, whether local residents or tourists, it will work.
   It can have a theme if desired, but what works better than children, their pets, the look of 'smalltown USA', items that touch the heart and soul of every person regardless of age.
   The little park at the corner of 1st and Main is a great place to start. I haven't seen it lately, but can you imagine a lifesized statue of a little girl with her hoola hoop, or a couple of kids on their knees playing marbles. Even a child asleep on a park bench with a puppy's head lying across her lap. These sound oldfashioned, I'm sure, but it depicts childhood. That is just one example. Does the park have a fountain? Everybody loves fountains/watergardens.
   What about a dog beside a fire hydrant, taking care of his needs? (just thought I would throw that in)
   Modern art is fine, but personally, I kinda like to look at something that I can recognize what it is. The statues can have sponsors to help finance the expense.
   Have you ever driven down Richmond Road in Lexington going towards Main Street, and seen the fountain and prancing horses on the right? Do you do a doubletake? They are beautiful.
   More suggestions:  As you enter Corbin on the north end of KY Street, I believe there is a big flag displayed there. The idea I spoke of before regarding the children circling the American Flag, why couldn't Corbin have something similar, perhaps smaller scale. I have no doubt that tourists would remember the town of Corbin after seeing something like that. I could go on and on, but I know there are lots of good ideas for the beautification of your city. This just happens to be my idea. I'll put it this way---after you have seen something likeI just described, you will always remember it with a biggrin

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Permalink · Date: Sep 22, 2007

Good thoughts by all here, and also, we don't really have a vetrans type of memorial either. We've lost a few locals to the current war, as well as from others. We have many vetrans still around.

Permalink · Date: Sep 23, 2007

A question for Ms. Razmus, when do you get the agenda for the upcoming tourism meetings. The reason I ask, is that you should receive it several days in advance, but if not, how do you know what is going to be discussed in the meetings.

Also, do you have to contact Estep to be put on the agenda, and how far in advance do you need to call.

Permalink · Date: Sep 24, 2007

I doubt that a crowd would scare Mr Estep. He is used to being at the front of the stage. A former voice of the redhounds. He may overact every now and then but I believe he is only doing what he thinks is right. Some of you do not know the full story behind all of this and it cannot be told here. It would be deleted and the IP address banned. This is a one man, or should I say a two man show. And their followers.

wkugirl · Senior Member

Please, please tell us the "rest of the story". It's so easy to throw things out like that to make us all "wonder". So, please tell us what we don't know, for we are all dying to know!!!

Permalink · Date: Sep 24, 2007

Wkugirl, tell us who are the "powers that be" in your other post.

wkugirl · Senior Member

Is that your answer to the "rest of the story"?????? That's what I thought it would be.....

Permalink · Date: Sep 24, 2007

WKUGirl. I used to think Mr. Terell and Jr. were victims of petty politics. But think about it. Jr. was canned as marketing guy for the city and chamber. right after that, Bob Sr. was fired as director of economic development. Now the tourist board has decided not to continue working with Jr. All these boards are made up of different people.

I'm just starting to wonder, are these boards bad? Or do these two men just have a hard time playing well with others?

Permalink · Date: Sep 24, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

I doubt that a crowd would scare Mr Estep. He is used to being at the front of the stage. A former voice of the redhounds. He may overact every now and then but I believe he is only doing what he thinks is right. Some of you do not know the full story behind all of this and it cannot be told here. It would be deleted and the IP address banned. This is a one man, or should I say a two man show. And their followers.

YOUR CRAP WAS NOT DELETED. YOU ARE THE SAME BACK STABBER THAT HAS PUT ON NEARLY ALL OF THESE DISHONEST ACCUSATIONS. I AGREE WITH WKUGIRL, SPEAK UP OR SHUT UP.

Permalink · Date: Sep 24, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

WKUGirl. I used to think Mr. Terell and Jr. were victims of petty politics. But think about it. Jr. was canned as marketing guy for the city and chamber. right after that, Bob Sr. was fired as director of economic development. Now the tourist board has decided not to continue working with Jr. All these boards are made up of different people.

I'm just starting to wonder, are these boards bad? Or do these two men just have a hard time playing well with others?

We are the ones who are the victims. We are victims of the control bosses who want everything to be done their way.

We are the victims of a few leaders who are more interested in the status quo than in getting our people more jobs.

We finally have an opportunity to express our views and this is killing you and a few other people. You and a few others "are all shook up because we are asserting ourselves."

You want us to be the real victims but we are not going to be intimidated any more.

Permalink · Date: Sep 25, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
We are the ones who are the victims. We are victims of the control bosses who want everything to be done their way.

We are the victims of a few leaders who are more interested in the status quo than in getting our people more jobs.

We finally have an opportunity to express our views and this is killing you and a few other people. You and a few others "are all shook up because we are asserting ourselves."

You want us to be the real victims but we are not going to be intimidated any more.

wkugirl, you are being hysterical.

Permalink · Date: Sep 25, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
We are the ones who are the victims. We are victims of the control bosses who want everything to be done their way.

We are the victims of a few leaders who are more interested in the status quo than in getting our people more jobs.

We finally have an opportunity to express our views and this is killing you and a few other people. You and a few others "are all shook up because we are asserting ourselves."

You want us to be the real victims but we are not going to be intimidated any more.

wkugirl, you are being hysterical.

I enjoy the posts by the wkugirl, but the above post was by me and not by her. You are the one who is hysterical because you and and a couple of your cronies believe only a few people defend this message board. Get in the real world you fake. You and your cronies are making this message board into a major communications resource. You aint gonna kick us around any more, hotshot!

wkugirl · Senior Member

Yeah, sorry, but I didn't write that. I agree with the poster, but it didn't come from me. So, you can beat up on other people, too. Guess that makes you happy??? I'm not the only "hysterical" one out there...... I just wish you would write more than a one word sentence. I would like to see what your thoughts are...but it is always just a one sentence blurb about someone else. I'm still waiting for the rest of the story.......

Permalink · Date: Sep 25, 2007

Wkugirl, you need to study up on Corbin a bit. If you do maybe you can find out just who the city girls are and who bubba is. It is obvious that you don't know very much. Claims of "powers that be" controlling the town and Shelton, Lynch and McBurney not being among them. Those three men control 3 of the 5 votes at city hall. So what is your complaint about "powers that be"?