You're still here, in spite of the weekly wanting it taken down......

Date: Oct 5, 2007

RE: You're still here, in spite of the weekly wanting it taken down......

Date: Oct 5, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Most boards require a person to register with a valid e-mail address, and some also post your IP address with your message. I use many message boards and this one is the most lenient, but I hope they require registration in the future to get rid of the garbage these one or two people are posting.

Why do you want to post a message acting like you are posting from China or Australia using someone elses IP address? It is not your IP address, you are using someone elses thousands of miles away. Kind of like using a fake ID the way I see it.

If you are in favor of required registration, then why aren't you registered now? Why do you post anonymously? There is nothing stopping you from signing up and giving your real name.

I'd say it's for the same reason me and the others are using proxy servers. Because you want to remain anonymous. The board administrator is in favor of anonymous posting because he says it is the message that matters, not who's writing it. Except when he doesn't agree with it or it is critical of him or his worshipers, then he shows he is a hippocrit and starts banning people.

This is my first post using a proxy. I learned about it thanks to the informative posts by the administrator and WKUgirl. They have been very helpful. I have told others about it as well.

Date: Oct 6, 2007

There's a thread on this section asking for your opinions on the subject of whether he should require registration, so why don't you post your opinions there too.

Strange how you use all the "freedom of speech" talk, but you hide behind this server issue, wanting to remain anonymous.

It's Bob's board, it's his rules, and if you don't like it, start your own. But you won't, because you don't have the time or dedication to do so. So, you just latch onto his and then complain.

I'm all for banning people using the proxy servers. Most that do are hiding something for other reasons than just this board.

Go ahead Bob, put the screws to these people. Let them start their own board.

Date: Oct 6, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This is my first post using a proxy. I learned about it thanks to the informative posts by the administrator and WKUgirl. They have been very helpful. I have told others about it as well.

Uh huh. And cows now fly.

Date: Oct 6, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Go ahead Bob, put the screws to these people. Let them start their own board.

Since there is so much controversy on this message board why don't Mr. Terrell just take Corbin, Kentucky out of the name? After all I have been told it is not an official Corbin, Kentucky site in fact the mayor told a friend of mine that he would shut it down if he could. Well, I didn't hear this myself but I know he is concerned about it and I have no reason to believe that he doesn't feel that way. I know I would if I was the mayor. I came to Corbin over twenty years ago. All of my children have remained here and maybe their children will too.
Corbin has much to offer but there sure is a lot of people trying to get their two cents in. Why don't you just let the elected officials do their job? There has been some shameful insults posted here about our leaders and they all appear to be with the blessing of board management. Even the incentives issue. It was rejected by the city officials. Why can't the Terrells just drop it and move on? Or move in and run for city office. If you win you can take Corbin in whatever direction you want to go. If you lose then you can find something else to do. Losing an election would tell you that you don't speak for the people. Winning an election tells you that you do. Support your elected leaders.

Date: Oct 6, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Go ahead Bob, put the screws to these people. Let them start their own board.

Since there is so much controversy on this message board why don't Mr. Terrell just take Corbin, Kentucky out of the name? After all I have been told it is not an official Corbin, Kentucky site in fact the mayor told a friend of mine that he would shut it down if he could. Well, I didn't hear this myself but I know he is concerned about it and I have no reason to believe that he doesn't feel that way. I know I would if I was the mayor. I came to Corbin over twenty years ago. All of my children have remained here and maybe their children will too.
Corbin has much to offer but there sure is a lot of people trying to get their two cents in. Why don't you just let the elected officials do their job? There has been some shameful insults posted here about our leaders and they all appear to be with the blessing of board management. Even the incentives issue. It was rejected by the city officials. Why can't the Terrells just drop it and move on? Or move in and run for city office. If you win you can take Corbin in whatever direction you want to go. If you lose then you can find something else to do. Losing an election would tell you that you don't speak for the people. Winning an election tells you that you do. Support your elected leaders.

Where are the shameful insults? This website plays up Corbin very well, and I wish my hometown would try to sell itself like this. Try looking at the entire thing, not just the messages you disagree with. Also, please post a better website that you have come across for a town this size, or any size for that matter. I'd like to see it.

UK Wildcat · Senior Member

Mr. McBurney and I talk frequently about many topics, this site included, and he has never said anything like what your "friend" says. He also has a lot of respect for the Terrells.

Date: Oct 6, 2007

I speak with the Mayor about every week, and not only does he talk about this site very positively, but has the utmost respet for the Terrells as well.

Willard is the most personable, approachable Mayor we have had in 20 years. Williamson was a joke, still is a joke, and an embarassment to the town. Thurston was a good administrator, but would not talk to people and was a pure politician. Heath was terrible and that's being nice.

I wish the mayor had the confidence to post here, as well as the commissioners, especially Lynch and Shelton, they are very open and listen to you.

If the mayor said he would love to see this site taken down, then you're the only one he has told this, and now you've betrayed his confidence.

This board represents Corbin Kentucky better than anything I have ever seen, and has Corbin being the talk of the area. My neice works in London, and they read our board every day, many times a day. They are trying to find someone there to start a board such as this one, but can't find someone willing to be the administrator, due to time and cost issues.

My last comment, if you don't like this board, then leave.

Date: Oct 6, 2007

I guess a little Bird must have told you all of that. It is true that the mayor is critical of this board. Several people have told me this. I have even heard that he told the board administrator to stop allowing city cfficials to be slammed on his message board. Does the board administrator deny this? I will call the mayor myself on Monday and ask him this. I don't know if he takes calls or not but I will certainly try. This board is an insult to the people of Corbin. What if someone set up a message and called it the Terrell board and filled it with opinions that the Terrells were not confortable with. I would say a lawsuit would be filed by them very quickly.

Date: Oct 6, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
My neice works in London, and they read our board every day, many times a day.

Probably to get a good laugh on Corbin. This is not an official Corbin site. We all know that they have their own agendas. You can't possible think this is good for Corbin.

Date: Oct 6, 2007

Sounds as if the last two posts came from the guy that gets his IP address banned all the time. Wonder where those came from, Sweden, Italy, maybe Iran.

Now I know why so many are fearful of having to register on this board. It's not the user name they are afraid of, it's the valid email address they have to have to use to register and log in. Don't know why I hadn' thought of it sooner. Of course you can have many email addresses, but, for each one, it of course would normally have a different IP addy. The "Banned IP" guy would have to go through and create new email addresses for all his alias's. That would be time consuming, and not to mention he'd have to keep track of all the email addy's and the passwords and such. Now that answers a lot of questions. One user name, one email addy. Of course, you could register several user names with the same email, but that would really show what is going on. Two or three would be normal for an IP, say a husband, wife, 2 or 3 kids. No problem.

Date: Oct 6, 2007

The mayor is very careful when dealing with each side of this message board. My opinion is how would the mayor like this board. With all the negative fighting among the people of his town. The people need to come together and work together for the good of the town. Lets all put aside all our differences and work to help our community grow. I feel some people just get on and post negative comments to see how people are going to respond. They have mentioned it that they love to comment to see what kind of reaction they get back. That is just wrong and this should not be used in that way.

Date: Oct 6, 2007

I don't think the mayor would take the chance of talking out of both sides of his mouth, to just agree with whomever he is talking to. I've spoken with him often about other things, and if he doesn't agree or doesn't like something, he'll tell you. He will listen to your opinions and your side of the issue, but he won't and hasn't agreed to just be agreeing. That's why the post 4 up is not valid, as he doesn't and wouldn't do this. It would put him in a situation that he couldn't win on. We've discussed this board before, he and I, and his opinion is positive of it. He does say he don't like the anonymous issue concerning the posting, but, he also admitted he learns a lot from it, from just reading it.

The last poster is correct in that some post negative comments to just see what reaction they get from their post. The registering issue would solve most of that. However if someone truly wanted to manipulate the system, they could but it would take some time and effort.

I posted an invitation for the mayor and commissioners and even Carpenter and Estep to post here. I doubt it will be taken up from them, but, hey, I invited them. It's on page two of this section.

Date: Oct 6, 2007

You are awful confident the mayor like this site. What makes you so sure he does? He told you he does?

Date: Oct 7, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
I speak with the Mayor about every week, and not only does he talk about this site very positively, but has the utmost respet for the Terrells as well.

Willard is the most personable, approachable Mayor we have had in 20 years. Williamson was a joke, still is a joke, and an embarassment to the town. Thurston was a good administrator, but would not talk to people and was a pure politician. Heath was terrible and that's being nice.

I wish the mayor had the confidence to post here, as well as the commissioners, especially Lynch and Shelton, they are very open and listen to you.

If the mayor said he would love to see this site taken down, then you're the only one he has told this, and now you've betrayed his confidence.

This board represents Corbin Kentucky better than anything I have ever seen, and has Corbin being the talk of the area. My neice works in London, and they read our board every day, many times a day. They are trying to find someone there to start a board such as this one, but can't find someone willing to be the administrator, due to time and cost issues.

My last comment, if you don't like this board, then leave.

SAME GOES FOR SOMTHING ELSE
"if you dont like Corbin,LEAVE"

Date: Oct 7, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
You are awful confident the mayor like this site. What makes you so sure he does? He told you he does?

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How could he like this site. It is his own town people fighting. No unity etc. Does this make for a good site? Also it is not good for people who want to move here to get on and see this fighting taking place. No one business or individual in their right mind would want to move here. Unless they already have a connection here. Do you really think someone from Knoxville or Lexington with the class they have would move to Corbin Kentucky? Think about it!

Date: Oct 7, 2007

How could he NOT like this site. This site opens up conversations and ideas that would have never made it past casual conversations before. People can actually voice their opinions here, as before they couldn't.

The only problem is that the people now know how much politics plays a part in this towns, and the counties, business. More than we ever knew.

The only people with the problems here, is Don Estep and Bruce Carpenter.

Carpenter and Estep are trying to convince the city to hire Bruce to run the new Expo center, and not hire some contracting company to do it. What a mistake that would be.

McBurney just happened to be the mayor coming in when this message board took off, so, he gets the first trial by fire of this board having an opinion in whatever goes on in town. I think he would do himself a service to post on this board himself, just to show he cares.

Hopefully, when the new restaurant and hotel association comes into being, they'll have some new members on the tourism commission, and a new chairman as well.

People not wanting to move here? Do you ever get out of your house? Within 3 miles of my home, which is not in the city limits, I know of 12 new families that have moved here from areas over 140 miles away. Some for job changes, some retirees, and a few for the cost of living (those still work in knoxville and lexington, they moved here because of corbin schools and the cost of living being much lower). So, people are moving here.

You don't read about it in the news that much, but there is increased gang violence and other tensions in the cities to the north and south of us that are getting worse. I know, it's part of my job to know. The tri county area is somewhat of a safe haven for many.

This is a great place to live and raise a family. You should live somewhere else for awhile, then you'll appreciate what we have in this area.

Date: Oct 7, 2007

Why does every conversation always go back to Don and Bruce. Are they running the town or something. They must be according to everyone on this site. I didn't know they had so much power! WOW!

I have lived in other cities and I know people do a lot of research when relocating. Getting on a message board with this type of negative conversation would make me go else where.

I guess you are not considered a Corbin person since you live outside city limits. Your suggestions are read but I am not sure they care.

the Mayor likes the suggestion being made on this site. I can't imagine he would like all the name calling and slamming of people on this board. Something needs to be done to make people accountable for their comments.

wkugirl · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This is my first post using a proxy. I learned about it thanks to the informative posts by the administrator and WKUgirl. They have been very helpful. I have told others about it as well.

Uh huh. And cows now fly.

Well, you are really giving me too much credit, because I couldn't tell you the first thing about an open proxy. You must be thinking of someone else.

Date: Oct 7, 2007

Do you think we live in LALA Land, two posts up. I doubt you would let this board make your decision for you, although it would enlighten you as to what goes on in the cities politics.

If you have to ask about Don and Bruce, then you obviously don't know about them, so I'd suggest you read over all the threads on this board, and then find some folks around town to talk to. Then come back and tell us what you've found.

Me, I grew up and lived in the "city" of corbin for 22 years, and moved away, then moved back, and have been here another almost 30 years. I've lived in and out of the city limits. I live out of the city now, as there was and is no place I could find to buy or build what I wanted, in the city limits. That's the only reason why I don't live in the city.

What would scare me more is if I came into a town where there was absolutely no difference of opinions and everyone had a group hug every day and went to the same church. Now that would scare me.

And the mayor, well, you won't find a finer person than Willard McBurney, and he is one of the best mayors we've had in 30 years. That's a fact.

As to his liking this board or not, he told me he does, and that's that for me. If I were to find out from someone that I could verify it with that he didn't, I'd have a bone to pick with him for telling me a fib. So, as far as I'm concerned, he likes it, until he tells me otherwise.

Date: Oct 7, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Do you think we live in LALA Land, two posts up. I doubt you would let this board make your decision for you, although it would enlighten you as to what goes on in the cities politics.

If you have to ask about Don and Bruce, then you obviously don't know about them, so I'd suggest you read over all the threads on this board, and then find some folks around town to talk to. Then come back and tell us what you've found.

Me, I grew up and lived in the "city" of corbin for 22 years, and moved away, then moved back, and have been here another almost 30 years. I've lived in and out of the city limits. I live out of the city now, as there was and is no place I could find to buy or build what I wanted, in the city limits. That's the only reason why I don't live in the city.

What would scare me more is if I came into a town where there was absolutely no difference of opinions and everyone had a group hug every day and went to the same church. Now that would scare me.

And the mayor, well, you won't find a finer person than Willard McBurney, and he is one of the best mayors we've had in 30 years. That's a fact.

As to his liking this board or not, he told me he does, and that's that for me. If I were to find out from someone that I could verify it with that he didn't, I'd have a bone to pick with him for telling me a fib. So, as far as I'm concerned, he likes it, until he tells me otherwise.

Yes sometimes I think the people of Corbin live in their own world.
I have read all the post and it seems everything is directed towards them(Don and Bruce). I just didn't know they had that much power in Corbin. They must be great leaders?
So you are a Corbin citizen living outside the city limits(Do you call your self a from Corbin?). ARe you one of the lucky ones to be on a board?
If the mayor likes this site with all the negative comments, well thats just hard to believe, I will see him this week and ask him myself about it. Yes he is a fine person doing a great job!
Their are differences everywhere but like the newspapers in order to put in your editorial you must sign your name! Isn't this correct. Its kinda a countabilitiy thing to keep people from just writing what ever they want without signing it.

With all this being said its time the People of Corbin and I mean all, city county etc. need to come together for the good of the community.

Date: Oct 7, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You are awful confident the mayor like this site. What makes you so sure he does? He told you he does?

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How could he like this site. It is his own town people fighting. No unity etc. Does this make for a good site? Also it is not good for people who want to move here to get on and see this fighting taking place. No one business or individual in their right mind would want to move here. Unless they already have a connection here. Do you really think someone from Knoxville or Lexington with the class they have would move to Corbin Kentucky? Think about it!

What "fighting" are you talking about? I see some dumb comments like most message boards have, but I also see many great ideas and some debate of the issues. You should look at other city message boards before you badmouth this one. It's very tame compared to others.

Date: Oct 7, 2007

Anonymous wrote: you are awful confident the mayor like this site. What makes you so sure he does? He told you he does?

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How could he like this site. It is his own town people fighting. No unity etc. Does this make for a good site? Also it is not good for people who want to move here to get on and see this fighting taking place. No one business or individual in their right mind would want to move here. Unless they already have a connection here. Do you really think someone from Knoxville or Lexington with the class they have would move to Corbin Kentucky? Think about it!

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The people who don't like this site are the ones who don't want any change and improvements. They don't want anything to get better. They love control and belileve the rest of us are beneath their mighty dignity. Now we have a way to make our thoughts known. This is the people's website. Cry your hearts out. You just can't stand it for the people to get to express their beliefs and opininions.

Date: Oct 7, 2007

Let us know what the mayor says, as I won't see him this week because of work, but hopefully next week. Sounds as if I'll have a bone to pick with him. But, we'll see.

I've lived in corbin all my life, minuse some military and a short work time, and no matter where I live, I live in corbin. In or out of the city, I'll fight to defend it, and fight if I think something is not right. So no matter my address, I'll argue and defend coribns integrity to the end.

No, I'm not on a board, but have served in volunteer capacities over the years. I've owned a business, but no longer. I'm not a politician, but, I get involved in the politics of corbin from time to time.

The Don and Bruce thing, the only issue is, they're getting too big for their britches. Don thinks he's Walter Cronkite or Dan Rather now that he has a paper to run, and Bruce thinks he's Don King and is managing Muhammed Ali. They've both forgotten who put them where they are, and if they're not carful, those same people will take are of their uppity attitudes. When you bite the hand that feeds you, you'll starve eventually.

Date: Oct 8, 2007

Don and Bruce want control of and they want to run the Terrells out of this area. They don't want these guys to come in with new ideas and disturb their cozy little set up. Don and Bruce used to despise each other but they found out they were both losing and decided to join together. That is what this is all about. The control and dominating boys against the Terrell boys who want the people to be able to speak up and have a voice in what is going on in our community.

Date: Oct 8, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: you are awful confident the mayor like this site. What makes you so sure he does? He told you he does?

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How could he like this site. It is his own town people fighting. No unity etc. Does this make for a good site? Also it is not good for people who want to move here to get on and see this fighting taking place. No one business or individual in their right mind would want to move here. Unless they already have a connection here. Do you really think someone from Knoxville or Lexington with the class they have would move to Corbin Kentucky? Think about it!

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The people who don't like this site are the ones who don't want any change and improvements. They don't want anything to get better. They love control and belileve the rest of us are beneath their mighty dignity. Now we have a way to make our thoughts known. This is the people's website. Cry your hearts out. You just can't stand it for the people to get to express their beliefs and opininions.

You can say what you want but I want change and not control. If this town doesn't get some untity soon, it will cause businesses, people etc to go elsewhere.

Also it is my opinion that All committees are working for the good of Corbin not for individual praises. this poster keeps going on about control, thats bull. These people would not be on these committees if they didn't care about "Corbin". The pay is nothing! As for Don he was already on Tourism and has been for some time before they got any money. Do your research on these matters before mouthing about it any more.

If we don't get some change to our community, the children of today will continue to go elsewhere for jobs etc. Look at all the people who go away and never come back to Corbin.
We need a change to keep these kids here. Now who wants Change!

Lets put our thoughts in HOW to change instead of bashing the people who on these committees.

Date: Oct 8, 2007

You're exactly right, but change starts with a change in attitude at the top, not at the bottom. If the committees and their chairpersons, and their members do not project a postitive, courteous attitude to ALL who talk to them, then they are the problem, not the solution. They were put in or volunteered to be in their positions, so, it's up to them to start this change you talk about.

Take Carpenter and NIBROC for example. There's no changing his mind on anything, and why, because he's always done it that way. Take the NIBROC suggestions on this board, there's some excellent recommendations there. He won't listen because they came from this board. Change starts at the top.

Estep, sure he's been in tourism for a long time, but, now they have some money. There is more to tourism than just banners and giving checks to events. I personally have talked with him about events or themes concerning tourism, and he just flat out says "NO". Not, "we'll see", not "We'll look into it, can you help", but a flat out no discussion "NO". Where's your change attitude there previous poster.

There's no infighting here, only differences of opinion, and this is the first time the average citizen has had a vehicle from which to voice their opinion.

There is change in the air, but the top has to start it.