Post Info TOPIC: Nibroc not welcoming?
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RE: Nibroc not welcoming?


I've read through these posts and I apologize to the woman from Letcher county for the lack of communication on seating, but even more sorry for the poor initial reply someone posted. I think as you read the rest of the posts there are some good people here, and as Mr. Terrell stated, I hope you come back to Nibroc and our town in the future.

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Seems the lady that works for Bruce forgot to mention this incident in her letter, along with the money issues concerning nibroc.


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NIBROC WAS THE BEST EVER! BEST CONCERTS AROUND.  many thanks to Tourism, Chamber, Police, Fire, City of Corbin etc for putting on such a great event that over 20,000 people attended over the week.  What a great event and thanks to all the over 200 volunteer, with out them it would not happen.

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yES THANKS, IT WAS A GREAT WEEK

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I live in Corbin and I agree with the original post "Nibroc not welcoming?" My husband and I arrived two hours early also for the "free" concert and were told we could not enter without tickets.  We were told that we could bring a chair to sit in the alley, but were not told we could enter the roped off area until around 9:30.  We too, stood and sat by the fence.  I never saw anyone trying to climb under or over the fence.  I agree too that the "volunteers" were rude.  I actully heard one of them tell a lady two or three people down from me that she wanted her to scoot back from the fence because "I don't want you close to me"  When the lady was rude back the "volunteer" stated "don't make me get ugly".  It was nonsense.  This "Volunteer" spoke to everyone in a very demeaning and belittling manner.  On the same token, a different "Volunteer" later apologized to the lady.  As tax paying citizens of Corbin, my husband and I were very disappointed with the way that the concert was handled.  Maybe in the future the people that plan the Nibroc could come up with a different way to thank the sponsors, so that events such as the annual concert can be for the people!  It is a shame that you have to "know somebody" to have a seat at the free concert or to even stand close to the fence!!

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You state "...all the volunteers from my seat...".  This means you were on the inside of the fence, sitting in your sponsor seat where people were treated like people, not outside the fence where people were treated rudely!

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Nibroc was the best ever.  I was sitting outside the fence and had a better seat than those inside.  I was told since I had my own chair I could come inside the fence area and sit behind the other chairs.  Everyone around me was very nice and helpful.  The people who brought their own chairs were allowed to go in at 5:30.  That is what time I got there for both Joan and Starship.  The volunteers I noticed were great.



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i am from knoxville and I come to corbin every year for nibroc to visit my relatives.  Nibroc has been a time for me and my husband to come watch a good concert and let the kids run around.  We have never had to worry about them in Corbin.  The people of Corbin and the people at the concert have been great.  My cousin told me of this site and I decided to post a comment.  I think all the volunteers were very nice.  I didn't get to enter inside the fence but the volunteers told us we could come in at 9.  They were very nice.  I can't wait to see who will preform next year.   SEE YOU IN 2008!  Nibroc rocks!

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I was also sitting outside the fence area and was not lucky enough to get a ticket.  I noticed that at 9 when they let the public come in,  there was plenty of seats.  Also, they let the public come in and stand next to the stage. I think everyone was able to hear and see a free concert.  People where I am from we don't have a free concert like these.  I would give anything for my community to offer such a festival.  I thought your festival was awesome and the concerts great!  Thank you for letting us come and be apart. 
Barbourville residence


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You state "...all the volunteers from my seat...".  This means you were on the inside of the fence, sitting in your sponsor seat where people were treated like people, not outside the fence where people were treated rudely!

The poster above you from Corbin your referring to never made that Statement, you should learn to read a little better. This poster clearly said they were outside the fenced area and heard one Volunteer who was very rude and another that did a great job and apologized for the others rude behavior.

This Lady is trying to give you Subjective Feedback, very similar to the Lady from Letcher County who tried to give feedback and you (And I know its You) attacked her, this is the same person who is griping constantly about not being Born here and outsiders bugging him.

Corrections and Improvements can always be made, take these post and try and figure out good solutions and counter measures that keep these kinds of things from occurring. Bob Terell has a great thread here where improvemnet actions can be listed, let's consider the Public Feedback and suggest our Improvement Plans there.


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While we have a great man in Willard McBurney a mayor, one thing that we need to improve on is accepting objective feedback or constructive critism.

I've read on here the comments about some people never thinking they can improve, that everything is perfect, and that is an attitude that leads to failure. I see and hear this attitude around here constantly, and it is why are area is slow in advancing.

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There may be a poster or two that have sounded like that but I don't think it is a problem with the people of Corbin.

There are probably more people in Corbin that cannot accept the reality of small town life than there are that cannot accept change and improvement.

These are usually people that lived somewhere else at one time but things did not work out for them there and they moved to Corbin for a job or moved back to Corbin after they retired from their job.

The previous poster most likely fits into this category.


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I agree. NIBROC has become awesome with the addition of all the concerts. That's not an easy thing to pull off so hats off to the hard-working folks to make it all happen. Uh, and if you think something can be improved on,....guess what,...you too can be a volunteer! Ha ha! One thing is certain when you're planning something as huge as NIBROC, volunteers are ALWAYS welcomed!

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You're correct there MerCSakes, but, the problem here is, there was a complaint, and instead of acting on it, people are trying to spin the blame onto someone else.

We'll see what happens next year.

By the way, I've volunteered before, have you of late?

I love nibroc too, and it's a huge task.



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Anonymous wrote:


There may be a poster or two that have sounded like that but I don't think it is a problem with the people of Corbin.

There are probably more people in Corbin that cannot accept the reality of small town life than there are that cannot accept change and improvement.

These are usually people that lived somewhere else at one time but things did not work out for them there and they moved to Corbin for a job or moved back to Corbin after they retired from their job.

The previous poster most likely fits into this category.






No, the previous poster fits into the catagory that thinks Corbin can be even greater than it is, and not willing to accept the "Reality of small town life", whatever that means. I also fit into two other catagories, one catagory of folks that have lived here over 50 years, and another large catagory of folks that thinks you are full of crap.

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There may be a poster or two that have sounded like that but I don't think it is a problem with the people of Corbin.

There are probably more people in Corbin that cannot accept the reality of small town life than there are that cannot accept change and improvement.

These are usually people that lived somewhere else at one time but things did not work out for them there and they moved to Corbin for a job or moved back to Corbin after they retired from their job.

The previous poster most likely fits into this category.




      Well said!  You are 100% correct.


 



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MerCSakes wrote:

I agree. NIBROC has become awesome with the addition of all the concerts. That's not an easy thing to pull off so hats off to the hard-working folks to make it all happen. Uh, and if you think something can be improved on,....guess what,...you too can be a volunteer! Ha ha! One thing is certain when you're planning something as huge as NIBROC, volunteers are ALWAYS welcomed!






Thank you for the support, if every one on this site could read this. If you want something improved then volunteer and make a difference.

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Anonymous wrote:

You're correct there MerCSakes, but, the problem here is, there was a complaint, and instead of acting on it, people are trying to spin the blame onto someone else.

We'll see what happens next year.

By the way, I've volunteered before, have you of late?

I love nibroc too, and it's a huge task.






Alas Anonymous, I haven't volunteered for Nibroc since I was a kid and lived there. But I'm just up the road in Frankfort now so if the folks planning Nibroc need or want my help, count me in! So if you're involved with Nibroc, just send me an e-mail!

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Anonymous wrote:

There are probably more people in Corbin that cannot accept the reality of small town life than there are that cannot accept change and improvement.


These are usually people that lived somewhere else at one time but things did not work out for them there and they moved to Corbin for a job or moved back to Corbin after they retired from their job.




        Good post. Those people cause most of the dissension.



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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


There may be a poster or two that have sounded like that but I don't think it is a problem with the people of Corbin.

There are probably more people in Corbin that cannot accept the reality of small town life than there are that cannot accept change and improvement.

These are usually people that lived somewhere else at one time but things did not work out for them there and they moved to Corbin for a job or moved back to Corbin after they retired from their job.

The previous poster most likely fits into this category.





No, the previous poster fits into the catagory that thinks Corbin can be even greater than it is, and not willing to accept the "Reality of small town life", whatever that means. I also fit into two other catagories, one catagory of folks that have lived here over 50 years, and another large catagory of folks that thinks you are full of crap.



Good reply post. The people that don't want to improve and make things better for everyone cause most of the dissension. Small town Reality? Because we are small we can't improve?

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I'm sorry but I moved here because Corbin is a small town. You can only get the small town charm from a small town. You that disagree probably haven't lived in a 'city' and if you did... it was just too big and you moved back for a reason... the small town charm. We live close enough to big cities to visit if the want or needs arise. We are lucky enough to have that distance still close.
I personally don't want Corbin to focus on being a 'city'. A town is just fine with me and my family. We feel safer in a town than lost in a city.

Don't get me wrong, change and update is a good thing but I just ask that you don't try so hard to be something we're not.

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I don't recall seeing anyone say they wanted to make Corbin into a bigger city or town, they just want to make us the best small town we can be. I want Corbin to maintain it's small town charm, but does that mean we can't be better? Are a few of you saying we are as good as we are going to be?

The largest city I've lived in is Dayton, OH while attending college, and I would never want to go back to that. I want Corbin be a town with small-town charm, but that doesn't mean we can't be the best small town we can be. Better means jobs that pay good wages. According to the Times-Tribune last week the average family income in Whitley and Knox counties is around $20,000, while the national average is $48,000. Are you happy with that? If you are one of the few that makes a middle or upper class living, maybe you don't care. Do you want you kids to stay here, raise their families and make a good living? Better is small local businesses growing and making money, instead of struggling to stay afloat. Better is finding ways to bring in more tourism dollars that will also create more jobs and benefit local businesses. Better is a city listening to ideas from the entire community, not just a few people who want to run the town. I want my kids to be able to stay here when they get out of college if they choose, and have a few options career wise.

I read back to the message that started this discussion, where an out of town person very politely commented about their not-so-perfect experience at nibroc. They didn't rip anyone, they didn't belittle Corbin or its people, they just politely commented on their not-so-perfect experience at nibroc. Then, instead of a polite reply either agreeing or disagreeing, they get ripped apart buy a couple people who act like there is no way anyone could have a less-than-perfect experience at nibroc, and that nothing needs to be looked at or improved. Fortunately several people replied the right way, but this "we can't do any better" attitude is surprising to me.

Wal-mart is the #1 retailer in the World, but do you think they can do a better job? I'm sure all of us at one time has left Wal-Mart shaking our heads in disgust because of a not-so-perfect experience. BMW makes a great car, but they continually try to make them better. Do you think if the Wildcats were undefeted this season, that Coach Brooks still wouldn't be busting his players butts? You don't think he would still be pointing out mistakes while reviewing game films? You think Brooks would say that they are the best they can be, that they can't perform at a higher level? No Way. That is what strong leadership is about, never being satisified, always striving to improve, no matter how perfect you think you might be. And while I love Corbin, I know there are many things that can be improved to make things better for all of us. But if you are saying we can't be any better, I disagree with you. We can always improve.


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UK Wildcat Fan wrote:

I don't recall seeing anyone say they wanted to make Corbin into a bigger city or town, they just want to make us the best small town we can be. I want Corbin to maintain it's small town charm, but does that mean we can't be better? Are a few of you saying we are as good as we are going to be?

The largest city I've lived in is Dayton, OH while attending college, and I would never want to go back to that. I want Corbin be a town with small-town charm, but that doesn't mean we can't be the best small town we can be. Better means jobs that pay good wages. According to the Times-Tribune last week the average family income in Whitley and Knox counties is around $20,000, while the national average is $48,000. Are you happy with that? If you are one of the few that makes a middle or upper class living, maybe you don't care. Do you want you kids to stay here, raise their families and make a good living? Better is small local businesses growing and making money, instead of struggling to stay afloat. Better is finding ways to bring in more tourism dollars that will also create more jobs and benefit local businesses. Better is a city listening to ideas from the entire community, not just a few people who want to run the town. I want my kids to be able to stay here when they get out of college if they choose, and have a few options career wise.

I read back to the message that started this discussion, where an out of town person very politely commented about their not-so-perfect experience at nibroc. They didn't rip anyone, they didn't belittle Corbin or its people, they just politely commented on their not-so-perfect experience at nibroc. Then, instead of a polite reply either agreeing or disagreeing, they get ripped apart buy a couple people who act like there is no way anyone could have a less-than-perfect experience at nibroc, and that nothing needs to be looked at or improved. Fortunately several people replied the right way, but this "we can't do any better" attitude is surprising to me.

Wal-mart is the #1 retailer in the World, but do you think they can do a better job? I'm sure all of us at one time has left Wal-Mart shaking our heads in disgust because of a not-so-perfect experience. BMW makes a great car, but they continually try to make them better. Do you think if the Wildcats were undefeted this season, that Coach Brooks still wouldn't be busting his players butts? You don't think he would still be pointing out mistakes while reviewing game films? You think Brooks would say that they are the best they can be, that they can't perform at a higher level? No Way. That is what strong leadership is about, never being satisified, always striving to improve, no matter how perfect you think you might be. And while I love Corbin, I know there are many things that can be improved to make things better for all of us. But if you are saying we can't be any better, I disagree with you. We can always improve.




Anonymous wrote:

There are probably more people in Corbin that cannot accept the reality of small town life than there are that cannot accept change and improvement.


These are usually people that lived somewhere else at one time but things did not work out for them there and they moved to Corbin for a job or moved back to Corbin after they retired from their job.




UK Wildcat Fan, you may not fit into that category but most of the people who are dividing the town do.


 



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UK Wildcat Fan wrote:

I don't recall seeing anyone say they wanted to make Corbin into a bigger city or town, they just want to make us the best small town we can be. I want Corbin to maintain it's small town charm, but does that mean we can't be better? Are a few of you saying we are as good as we are going to be?

The largest city I've lived in is Dayton, OH while attending college, and I would never want to go back to that. I want Corbin be a town with small-town charm, but that doesn't mean we can't be the best small town we can be. Better means jobs that pay good wages. According to the Times-Tribune last week the average family income in Whitley and Knox counties is around $20,000, while the national average is $48,000. Are you happy with that? If you are one of the few that makes a middle or upper class living, maybe you don't care. Do you want you kids to stay here, raise their families and make a good living? Better is small local businesses growing and making money, instead of struggling to stay afloat. Better is finding ways to bring in more tourism dollars that will also create more jobs and benefit local businesses. Better is a city listening to ideas from the entire community, not just a few people who want to run the town. I want my kids to be able to stay here when they get out of college if they choose, and have a few options career wise.

I read back to the message that started this discussion, where an out of town person very politely commented about their not-so-perfect experience at nibroc. They didn't rip anyone, they didn't belittle Corbin or its people, they just politely commented on their not-so-perfect experience at nibroc. Then, instead of a polite reply either agreeing or disagreeing, they get ripped apart buy a couple people who act like there is no way anyone could have a less-than-perfect experience at nibroc, and that nothing needs to be looked at or improved. Fortunately several people replied the right way, but this "we can't do any better" attitude is surprising to me.

Wal-mart is the #1 retailer in the World, but do you think they can do a better job? I'm sure all of us at one time has left Wal-Mart shaking our heads in disgust because of a not-so-perfect experience. BMW makes a great car, but they continually try to make them better. Do you think if the Wildcats were undefeted this season, that Coach Brooks still wouldn't be busting his players butts? You don't think he would still be pointing out mistakes while reviewing game films? You think Brooks would say that they are the best they can be, that they can't perform at a higher level? No Way. That is what strong leadership is about, never being satisified, always striving to improve, no matter how perfect you think you might be. And while I love Corbin, I know there are many things that can be improved to make things better for all of us. But if you are saying we can't be any better, I disagree with you. We can always improve.




Anonymous wrote:

There are probably more people in Corbin that cannot accept the reality of small town life than there are that cannot accept change and improvement.


These are usually people that lived somewhere else at one time but things did not work out for them there and they moved to Corbin for a job or moved back to Corbin after they retired from their job.




UK Wildcat Fan, you may not fit into that category but most of the people who are dividing the town do.


 





I disagree with you. I think those that are dividing the town are those who don't listen to constructive criticism or new ideas and fight positive change. Companies also have issues with people that behave like this, and so to towns. We are no different. You can see them throughout this posting board. But, you are entitled to your opinion. I stand by mine.

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I disagree with you completely. I am not sure if you are talking the tourism chairman, the economic development director or one of the city commissioners, but there is not anyone in local government that, as you say, "don't listen to constructive criticism or new ideas and fight positive change".

What you are really saying is that if they don't do what you or your friends say then they "
don't listen to constructive criticism or new ideas and fight positive change".

UK Wildcat Fan, this is very childish for someone as old as you.








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I disagree with you completely. I am not sure if you are talking the tourism chairman, the economic development director or one of the city commissioners, but there is not anyone in local government that, as you say, "don't listen to constructive criticism or new ideas and fight positive change".

What you are really saying is that if they don't do what you or your friends say then they "
don't listen to constructive criticism or new ideas and fight positive change".

UK Wildcat Fan, this is very childish for someone as old as you.



Your reply is a great example of what I'm talking about. I never said anything about the Tourism Chairman, Economic Development Director, any of the Corbin commissioners or anyone in city government. I don't even know the Tourism Director or Economic Development director personally, and I like all of the commissioners. I wasn't talking about any of them in particular, I'm talking about people exactly like you and the replys like yours on this board, and this reply of yours proves my point. You can read messages all over this board from people like you, just like my example of how this subject started.  Someone disagrees with something at nibroc, karaoke and dancing, or even says something positive about something, and your defenses take over, just like your reply above.  You can't discuss an issue without throwing childish insults in - someone as old as me? You're hilarious - you have no idea how young or old I am.  You are a prime example of the type of people who divide the community, a small part I might add, because you are the very type of person who doesn't listen to constructive criticism, new ideas, or the other person's point of view. Whatever cause you are trying to support, you don't help it with these childish replys. Your messages tell much more about you than you realize.



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UK Wildcat Fan wrote:

 

I never said anything about the Tourism Chairman, Economic Development Director, any of the Corbin commissioners or anyone in city government. I don't even know the Tourism Director or Economic Development director personally, and I like all of the commissioners. I wasn't talking about any of them in particular, I'm talking about people exactly like you and the replys like yours on this board, and this reply of yours proves my point.

 




UK Wildcat Fan, if you have no problem with the Tourism Chairman, Economic Development Director and the Corbin commissioners and anyone in city government, why would you even care what an anonymous poster on this board thinks?

It is good to know that you endorse the Tourism Chairman, Economic Development Director and the Corbin commissioners. If words of this gets to them I am sure they will be greatly encouraged.


 

 


 

 


 

 

 

 



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