Post Info TOPIC: Estep claims internet not an effective advertising tool.
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RE: Estep claims internet not an effective advertising tool.


If you ever look at it, it is very much more than just a webpage. I counted about 35 pages on fishing, hiking, golf, rafting, restaurants, and other toursim attractions about your area. I also see it is one of the better websites in the state for a town of your size. If tourism is down it is not because of this website, its because traffic on I-75 is down about 4,000 vehicles per day from three years ago, or roughly 10%, and because your Tourism probably isn't spending their remaining $200,000 estimated annual restuarant tax income wisely - I never see your area in any ads or see brochures in many of the tourism centers. A big bank account, downtown banners, park benches and flower pots don't attract tourists. Billboards, travel publications ads, and other forms of media are also key along with a good website. I work in Frankfort and feel this is a statewide problem we have of selling Kentucky's tourism due to a lack of funding and a lack of priorities. Hopefully when Steve Beshear is elected this will change, but while I am hopefull, I am keeping a wait and see attitude.

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If Brashear is elected I can't wait to see what he will do for this area? It will be interesting. Also how he handles hiring of his people. Stay tuned for the show!

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I don't think I understand so please help by telling just what the 300 a month webpage has done for Corbin the last few years. Is there some economic growth to be attributed to the 300 a month webpage. It was pointed out in the newspaper a few weeks ago that the tourism audit reported motel tax receipts were less last year than the year before. I doubt that Corbin motels have dropped their room rates so it can only mean that tourism for Corbin has slacked off some. What will the 300 a month webpage do for Corbin and has it been doing it the last couple of years?



I think this really sums it up. Also, why should they pay $300 a month for a site that never changes. Can't they just cut the webmaster off and keep the site. They paid for it.

 



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I guess you've never seen the agreement have you? I have, and you might want to comment when you have your facts straight.

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If you ever look at it, it is very much more than just a webpage. I counted about 35 pages on fishing, hiking, golf, rafting, restaurants, and other toursim attractions about your area. I also see it is one of the better websites in the state for a town of your size. If tourism is down it is not because of this website, its because traffic on I-75 is down about 4,000 vehicles per day from three years ago, or roughly 10%, and because your Tourism probably isn't spending their remaining $200,000 estimated annual restuarant tax income wisely - I never see your area in any ads or see brochures in many of the tourism centers. A big bank account, downtown banners, park benches and flower pots don't attract tourists. Billboards, travel publications ads, and other forms of media are also key along with a good website. I work in Frankfort and feel this is a statewide problem we have of selling Kentucky's tourism due to a lack of funding and a lack of priorities. Hopefully when Steve Beshear is elected this will change, but while I am hopefull, I am keeping a wait and see attitude.






I think this really sums it up.

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UK Wildcat wrote:

I guess you've never seen the agreement have you? I have, and you might want to comment when you have your facts straight.






Well don't hold back! Since you have all the facts post them here so we will be enlightened.

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Bently is a business man. (you got to admit, your first name is a toss up if people don't know you, so chill out on that issue) Being a business man, if you can't stand some criticism, then shut up and get out of business.

If you're donating anything to anyone, you're getting something else out of it, somehow. Mind telling us what it is.

Your web sites you do now are very basic, and I mean basic. No frills. If that's what they want, for $25, then so be it. And that's what they got. It works, that's it. It is not impressive, and it is not attractive to outsiders that may log on to see corbin's offerings.

Do you have a higher end website that you've done. If so, lets see it, maybe we're judging your work wrongly. We'd love to see it. Honestly.

Kind of like selling a Yugo in front of a Cadillac.

Don't take it personal, you're in business.




 Believe me, the first name issue has been with me for my entire life. It is a touchy subject with me. Criticism I don't mind, in fact I rather enjoy it, provided it's informed and useful.

As for what I donate, there are a couple of churches, and other non-profit organizations to which I donate quite a bit of work. I wrote the TriCEF Food Pantry tracking system, which has enabled local churches to prevent fraud and abuse of their generosity, by using an online system with an online database. Out of respect for Mr. Terrell I will not link to any work that I do, since we're effectively in competition for similar business.

Anyone that is mildly versed in the use of search engines would be able to find other sites that I've done, either through my site, or through basic searches.

As for what I get out of what I donate? It's this kind of headache. It's this kind of petty bickering, that I most often get out of donating my time and effort. My wife and I moved to Corbin to get away from the hectic life of Lexington, I sold my technology consulting firm, and she left a teaching position at U.K.

To me, Corbin seemed like a nice quite town, (my wife's hometown by-the-way), some place where we wouldn't have to fight traffic, or hear the constant scream of sirens. Not to mention the other general craziness of Lexington. Toyota Motor Manufacturing in Georgetown was one of my larger customers, so I did give up quite a bit to move down here as well.

But to answer your question, as to what I get out of the things I donate? I get the 9px or 10px footer tag that the site is hosted or designed by my company. In most cases, like the TriCEF site and Database system, I don't even get to write anything off. But I certainly do get quite a bit of grief for providing an affordable service, even though there are much cheaper services out there.

I'll mention that I don't feel the need to defend my business to anyone. I was here to make certain that the City's site was not lumped in with the paper's or any other board or commission's site.

You said, "Kind of like selling a Yugo in front of a Cadillac."

I happen to have a little bit of knowledge in that area as well. As a salesman, everyone that comes on to the lot is "pre-qualified", granted this pre-qualification is a system with flaws and can often cause the loss of a sale if one doesn't handle it properly. You look at the customer, look at what they're driving now, notice their dress and shoes. Mentally a salesman prepares for a certain type of customer, and starts out at something between a Yugo and a Cadillac. After speaking with them, and further qualifying them, listening to their needs, desires, and budget you might end up taking them to the Yugo, as it's the best fit for the situation. As long as the customer is happy when they drive away, and satisfied they got what they wanted, they'll probably come back again.

You told me to not take it personal, and believe me I don't. One develops quite a thick skin after dealing with the Japanese for so many years. I am in business, and have been since leaving the Air Force.

Carlie Bentley
Corbin Web Works
Phone: 606-344-0828

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