Don't stress the poster out too much. That is not the kind of things you learn at tailgate parties or at the Depot on Friday night.

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If the four current commissioners run for re-election they will not be beat. Mark it down!

I think you are the real jerk. You are probably the board owner, the board dad or a board clone. I don't know about the big numbers that you threw out but just because you have the power to look at everyones IP addresses does not make you better than they are.

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I have heard that Knox County gets over $300,000 in occupatinal taxes out of Corbin and slightly over $100,000 goes to the City of Barbourville. These could be off some but those are the numbers I was told this past year. Someone else may be able to verify it.

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Where would you have heard this? I have never read or heard where Knox County has ever said anything about the dollar amounts collected in Corbin and they are the only ones that would know. Please tell us.

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I don't care whether you believe those numbers or not.
All you have to do is take the number of peope who work in Corbin, Knox County and the average dollar income of Knox Countians and multiply both numbers to get total wages. Multiply that times 1% and it gives you the occupational taxes from workers income.  Then take the average company profits percentage of Kentucky Companies in Eastern Kentucky and multiply that times the total sales revenue for Knox County. If Corbin, Knox County is 20%  of the business jobs in Knox County then multiply  20% times that total Knox County profit and then multiply 1% of that total.  You add 1% of taxes on the wages with the 1% of the profits and you have a good ball park number. I was told by a person who knows those numbers I computed were very close.

I agree with the poster that questioned the other posters numbers. That is pure speculation even though the poster came across as real sure of themselves. But I also agree that regardless of the amounts Corbin should do something. I have asked city leaders before and each time they have told me that they were working on it. That is good enough for me. I do not doubt that they are. Besides, who is to say just how much net profit a business in East Corbin would make. The Fresh Mart and the Vintage House apparently made none.

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I agree with the poster that questioned the other posters numbers. That is pure speculation even though the poster came across as real sure of themselves. But I also agree that regardless of the amounts Corbin should do something. I have asked city leaders before and each time they have told me that they were working on it. That is good enough for me. I do not doubt that they are. Besides, who is to say just how much net profit a business in East Corbin would make. The Fresh Mart and the Vintage House apparently made none.

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Fresh Mart closed due to poor management practices. Vintage House closed due to the inability to negotiate a fair lease on both sides.

I'll tell you what, call our commissioner Bruce Farris, and his figures for calculating the knox co. end of the occupational tax won't be very far off of what was written here.

I've talked with Bruce about this before, some time ago about how much we're getting cheated out of by knox co.

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I agree with the poster that questioned the other posters numbers. That is pure speculation even though the poster came across as real sure of themselves. But I also agree that regardless of the amounts Corbin should do something. I have asked city leaders before and each time they have told me that they were working on it. That is good enough for me. I do not doubt that they are. Besides, who is to say just how much net profit a business in East Corbin would make. The Fresh Mart and the Vintage House apparently made none.

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K Mart, Sears, J. C. Penny, Pearson, Belk Simpson, McDonalds, CTA, TCO, SEKRI, Northern Contours, TECO, Pepsi Vending, SI, the Cement Co., Greer, KROGER, Four or five banks, six or seven other restaurants,  three flower shops, and many other companies are in Corbin, Knox County.  If it comes out of Corbin, Knox County employees, or Corbin, Knox County businesses our leaders should try to keep our rightful share.  By trying to keep some of our own taxpayers money in our city instead of in another city we are just seeking our rightful share of our own people's taxes.

That is a good point. The poster wants to make sure that all east Corbin workers pay their payroll taxes to the city instead of the tax going out of the city.

But many, perhaps even that poster and certainly some of the other frequent posters, want out of the city people to be able to serve on and vote in the different city boards and committees while they pay no tax to the city.

That is an interesting situation indeed. There are plenty of bright folks that live out of the city at their choosing. No one has ever said otherwise. The question is should they be able to have their cake and eat it too by living out of the city but serving on city boards and committees.

Some who live out have recently argued that the city should make itself attractive enough for them to want to be annexed. Others believe that if they want a say in what goes on in the city limits of Corbin that they move in to the city. Several have done that recently and I applaude them for it.

Good examples are the economic development director and the main street manager. They both lived outside the city limits of Corbin but moved into the city. Those two, like the rest of the registered Corbin voters, now have a vested interest in the city of Corbin.

I see both sides of this complicated issue and I agree that it would make a good question for the commissioner candidates especially after the recent conflict on the tourism board.




 

McBurney should take charge and set the policy for Corbin committees. 

Good or bad, there are several non Corbin residents that are serving.

Estep, Tipton, Ellis, Terrell, Hacker, Dorn, Cannon, Hoover and others.

Maybe someone can ask at a city meeting just what the criteria is.

The post two up from this one is right on the money. I hope that  McBurney will take charge of this problem. Corbin has given away the farm to people outside of the city in past years.

Putting money into industrial facilities in Laurel County, the school board expanding beyond the city limits, the utility board running water and sewer outside of the city and now letting people outside of the city run the town committes.

The above poster is most likely one of those people who live outside the city but wants to run the town. Maybe even one of the ones that the poster two above named.

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I guess that would also include Corbin School Superintendent McNeal, Corbin City Attorney Hammonds, Corbin City Manager Cannon, and others. Also, do you say that because Corbin is mostly in Whitley County, and city hall is in Whitley County, that the Mayor cannot live in Knox County, like former Mayor Miller? Could that influence someone's thinking regarding Suing Knox for our share of the occupational tax? Where do you draw the line?

This is a big can or worms a couple of you for some reason trying to open, and why, I'm not quite sure, although I can guess its the usual few power hungry individuals, and this is another way to eliminate a couple of people's roadblocks to obtaining Corbin stardom and power, by process of elimination, not merit.

Does any other city in the state, or nation, have such policies? I guess a couple of you think we should continue to be unique, buck the rest of the world and do things our own aniquated way, but it is a sad and very outdated attitude.

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You got it. We have too many good people in our area to make Corbin some sort of exclusive good ol boy brotherhood, but a couple of people want to run the show (and the money) and they want fewer people to compete with for power. It has nothing really to do with where anyone lives, its the fact they don't want anyone else to keep them from being the local big shot. This way they can delete another 20,000 or so from getting in their way. A couple of you sound like they you have been watching too many Gunsmoke reruns.

The mayor and commissioners positions are to serve the city of Corbin and are elected by Corbin citizens. Not Woodbine, not Cumberland Falls, not London, their job is strictly Corbin Government. State and federal laws dictate that these positions be served by residents of the city they are serving. Laws do not dictate this for these other boards and commitees. It sounds like you feel it should all be city people, so like a previous poster asked, what about Corbin School Superintendent McNeal, City Attorney Hammonds, and City Manager Cannon? Do you feel they should all go?

Corbin tourism doesn't not encompass only the Corbin city limits. If it did, there would be practically no tourism in Corbin. How many tourists come to visit Corbin's city limits only? Our tourism and tourism revenue (outside the restaurant tax) is based mostly on areas outside the city limits. What is our biggest tourism attraction? Is Cumberland Falls state park in the city limits? No. Colonel Sanders muesum? Outside Corbin. Both industrial parks? Outside the city. EKU Corbin? Outside the city. What tourist attraction is in the city? Nibroc, a couple of small events and a couple of restaurants is pretty much it. A large amount of tourism money is generated from people and businesses outside the city limits. The restaurants and hotels might be in the city, but without the Falls, Sanders Museum, EKU Corbin, etc. some of these hotels and restaurants would not exsist. If you are not happy with Estep, would that change if he moved into the city? I doubt it.

Have you ever met Lisa Davis? She runs Cumberland Falls and lives at the Falls, and is a great source of knowledge, both on our own area and on the state park areas we compete with. Do you think there are people in the city with her tourism knowledge? There might be, but I can't think of too many, even currently on the tourism board, and who could benefit our tourism efforts more than her? She would be great on our Tourism board, but according to a few of you, we don't need or want her because her home is at the Falls.

Does Corbin's Chamber of Commerce only consist of businesses in Corbin's city limits? No, it doesn't. From what I've been told there are businesses from a few hunderd feet to 100 miles outside the city limits. Should the Chamber only accept memberships from businesses in the city? Our Chamber couldn't survive with that policy.

Bruce Carpenter has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars at his discretion on nibroc entertainment over the years, from what acts and sound companies to book to how to map out the booths in front of downtown businesses, even though until two years ago he lived in London. Should we not have used Bruce and his nibroc knowledge because he lived in London for most of that time?

I like a comparison Terrell Jr. gave me a while back. If Bill Gates volunteered to donate his time to help on a Corbin city technology project, we you accept his help and generosity? You are nuts if you would refuse because he doesn't live in the city of Corbin. Who in the city limits has his knowledge for such a project?

People like Terrell Sr., Hoover, and many other possess knowledge and experience that very few if any in Corbin have. Should we penalize our city and not use their expertise because they live a couple miles outside the city line, or worse, because a couple of insecure people somehow feel threatened by them? What is ultimately best for our area?

I also would like those few city only thinkers to answer the question, what other cities operate this way? Any examples? Lexington? Berea? Danville? Louisville? I'd like to know whose success story you want to follow. I don't think there are any.

If you are not happy with the performance of any boards, look at who is on them and what they actually contribute to the board, not where the members house rests. Look at the Tourism board and ask, "What does each board member know about tourism, bringing tourists from other areas to the Corbin area, and generating tourism revenue?" Look at the Chamber board and ask "What do these board members know about growing Corbin's businesses?" Look at the Industry related boards and ask "What do these board members know about bringing businesses and creating jobs for our area?" That is the important part we should be talking about, not where each of these people live.

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A couple of you sound like they you have been watching too many Gunsmoke reruns.

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Maybe Black Diamond and Festus will ride into town with the answers.