When is an Industrial Banquet not about Industry: When it's held in Corbin.

Date: Nov 17, 2007

When is an Industrial Banquet not about Industry: When it's held in Corbin.

Date: Nov 18, 2007

Yeah, I thought the Republician Convention wasn't until next year.

Date: Nov 18, 2007

I thought Rogers gave a good talk about progress in our area, including jobs and economic development. It was a good industrial dinner.

I think you just have a hang up about anythign Carpenter is involved in because you have a personal axe to grind against him.

Date: Nov 18, 2007

I thought the banquet was Ok. Hal Rogers covered a lot of years in his talk. He talked about the many companies that have come to this area providing much needed jobs. The Times reporter spent most of the night running toward the front to take pictures. Isn't that what zoom lenses are for? Then they bashed the industrial banquet in the newspaper. Sort of a carbon copy of this thread.

Date: Nov 18, 2007

I thought it was a great banquet. Rogers did speak on industry in this area. I agree with the person who said you just have a problem with Carpenter. It would not have mattered who spoke you would have had a problem with it

Date: Nov 18, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

I thought the banquet was Ok. Hal Rogers covered a lot of years in his talk. He talked about the many companies that have come to this area providing much needed jobs. The Times reporter spent most of the night running toward the front to take pictures. Isn't that what zoom lenses are for? Then they bashed the industrial banquet in the newspaper. Sort of a carbon copy of this thread.

WHY HAVE THEY QUIT RECOGNIZING THE ENTREPRENEUR OF THE YEAR? THAT USED TO BE ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE YEAR AND IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR EXCELLENT ACHIEVEMENT.

WHY HAVE THEY STOPPED GIVING THE LORENE HODGE AWARD? THIS IS NOT A NIGHT TO HONOR POLITICIANS.

Humility · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:
I thought the banquet was Ok. Hal Rogers covered a lot of years in his talk. He talked about the many companies that have come to this area providing much needed jobs. The Times reporter spent most of the night running toward the front to take pictures. Isn't that what zoom lenses are for? Then they bashed the industrial banquet in the newspaper. Sort of a carbon copy of this thread.
WHY HAVE THEY QUIT RECOGNIZING THE ENTREPRENEUR OF THE YEAR? THAT USED TO BE ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE YEAR AND IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR EXCELLENT ACHIEVEMENT.

WHY HAVE THEY STOPPED GIVING THE LORENE HODGE AWARD? THIS IS NOT A NIGHT TO HONOR POLITICIANS.

The Entrepreneur of the Year Award used to be the key award of the evening. The Lorene Hodge Award was extablished years ago.
Why have they disappeared?

The Industrial "Appreciation" Banquet has been hijacked by a group who don't understand that our relatationship with businesses in this area is very important.

I am not critizing Hal Rogers for this. He was invited to speak and he came and gave a good chronology of his life. But the Industrial "Appreciation" Banquet was a night for us to recognize business leaders, employees, and others who have worked so hard for our community.

       If Hal Rogers had been there to give the Entrepreneur Award to
       our winner of the year and provide a brief message about the man
       or woman chosen for the Award that would have been very
       special. The Entrepreneur of the year has been swept away by the
       winds and waves of politics.

Date: Nov 19, 2007

You are entirely correct Humility.

And regardless of what people think, you can think Mr. Bruce Carpenter for ruining the spirit of the Industrial Appreciation Banquet. He has taken a truly good program, that used to be a showcase for our local business's, our local workers and ruined it with his politics. He's not alone, the local republician cronies are behind him, pushing very hard.

We have so few industries left in the area, and none coming in, you would think he would want to bring them up to talk up their business. To call upon some of the new business's to make them feel "appreciated". But no, Bruce wants to politicize the whole thing.

And, yes, Bruce is responsible for this, lock, stock, and barrell.

Date: Nov 21, 2007

It would be nice at an industrial banquet, for the economic director to tell us what's going on right now to bring new business and industry into our town. That is what I would want to know. Can anyone tell me what work is going on right now by our industrial commission or economic director to bring new business to town??

Date: Nov 22, 2007

I agree with the above post. The Industrial Appreciation Banquet is a community area event to inform the people about our business progress and to give recognition to our business, education, and civic leaders and their people.

If I am not mistaken there used to be 25 to 30 of our businesses that had first class exhibits in the Civic Center. Jim Host, Gov. Patton, Dr. Jack Early, and Coach Roy Kidd who were speakers from 2002 to 2005 each went by each exhibit and talked with the people who worked at those exhibits. The exhibit area is now just about gone.

The Entrepreneur of the Year Award was the highlight of the evening. That is now gone.

The Lorene Hodge Award is now gone.

There used to be beautification awards. Congressman Hal Rogers gets his recognition in this area many times each year. Our Tri-County area businesses at deserve at least one big recognition a year and the last two years they have not been the highlight of the evening.

Samantha Swindler's recent editorial was outstanding. Everything is about politics.

Date: Nov 22, 2007

Hal Rogers works for us, the people. If he didn't get things done for his area, he wouldn't be re-elected. Plain and simple. He's no god. He's just a government employee.

Date: Nov 22, 2007

I mean, we already re-named the Daniel Boone Parkway after him, despite many protests from his own constituents, not to mention how many other centers, roads, and waterparks are named after the man. I wonder how much we tax payers paid in re-naming signs and maps to the Hal Rogers Parkway??? I know he's done alot, but how many accolodates does the man need??? Enough already.

Date: Nov 22, 2007

Very well stated by the above poster. If they ever give another award to the Entrepreneur of the Year Mr. Stidham of Stidham Cabinet is most deserving. He has done an excellent job in the Keavy area in providing jobs and growing his business. These are the kind of people we need to recognize. Brant Poore and Raymond Shear of Information Capture Solutions in Williamsburg and London are two more examples of creating a new company and in just a few short years creating some good jobs. Chuck Archer of Resusable Plastic Containers in Corbin created a brand new company three years ago off Cumberland Falls Highway and they have doubled the size of their facility in this short period.

There are many more good entrepreneurs who make a difference in our area. The Industrial Appreciation Banquet is ideally named.....Appreciation for our local area business persons and employees.

Bob Terrell, Sr.

Date: Nov 23, 2007

Carpenter is sucking up so hard for that Expo Center management job it's funny. I'm sure he'll ask Hal to give the mayor and commissioners a call vouching for him to get it, and Don will surely keep singing his praises in his paper.

UK Wildcat · Senior Member

It won't happen.

With $20-25 Million eventually into this project, there is too much at stake for city and state government officials. They will HAVE to either hire someone with years of experience that has successfully run a similar facility and managed professional people, or worst case, hire an outside management company. It is going to take miracle for this expo center to break even, and it will have to be run at such a level of perfection that they are going to have to pay for high dollar management talent either way. This isn't some tent being set up for to play $5,000 bands like Kansas, Three Dog Night, Joan Jett and Foghat.

The heat will be on Government officials for years with this project, and with its high visibility from I-75, everyone in this part of the U.S., especially the news media, will be watching the success of this Expo center closely.

Date: Nov 23, 2007

I sure hope you're right Wildcat.

Date: Nov 23, 2007

Why would it have been alright for Roy Kidd to be the speaker at an industrial banquet and Hal Rogers not? Sometimes Sr and Wildcat can be just downright silly.

Date: Nov 23, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Why would it have been alright for Roy Kidd to be the speaker at an industrial banquet and Hal Rogers not? Sometimes Sr and Wildcat can be just downright silly.

I agree. Roy Kidd just doesn't make sense for this event. Sometimes people can get nostalgic about people they admire and know or played ball with or whatever and are blind to what is really good for an event.

Rogers was good this year. His contributions to southeast Kentucky have really helped economic growth.

Date: Nov 23, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why would it have been alright for Roy Kidd to be the speaker at an industrial banquet and Hal Rogers not? Sometimes Sr and Wildcat can be just downright silly.
I agree. Roy Kidd just doesn't make sense for this event. Sometimes people can get nostalgic about people they admire and know or played ball with or whatever and are blind to what is really good for an event.

Rogers was good this year. His contributions to southeast Kentucky have really helped economic growth.

Coach Roy Kidd was born in Corbin, grew up in Corbn, and had just been inducted earlier in the year into College Football's Hall of Fame. He had become the 7th coach to win 300 games. Just like sports, business requires a competitive spirit and a game plan.

If you had attended you would have heard a good talk about some of the same leadership characteristics in sports and business.

Coach Kidd was not there to gain votes from anyone. He didn't come in and brag about his outstanding accomplishments. We had a much greater turnout to hear Roy than was there to hear Congressman Rogers.

He grew up in East Corbin and he is still one of Corbin's all time top achievers. If you want to criticize me that is ok, but show your respect Coach Roy Kidd.

Bob Terrell, Sr.

Date: Nov 23, 2007

I think Terrell Sr. has some good ideas, and think those who feel this shouldn't be a political event have it right. Hal Rogers is doing the job we elected him to do, and quite honestly, I've heard that same exact speech from Hal at least a dozen times, and its a snoozer. Speakers should be people who are local business owners, such as Bill Hoover, or Terry Forcht, who spoke just a few years ago, who have made a real difference in our area, or it should be a motivational speaker. I have attended similar events where people such as Pat Riley, Payton Manning, and Bill Gates, as well as Coach Kidd at the Industrial Banquet a few years back, spoke with the purpose of motivating local business people or our employees. People like Hoover, Forcht, Kidd, Riley and similar are speakers that motivate the crowd, not politicians stumping for support.

Date: Nov 23, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Why would it have been alright for Roy Kidd to be the speaker at an industrial banquet and Hal Rogers not? Sometimes Sr and Wildcat can be just downright silly.
I agree. Roy Kidd just doesn't make sense for this event. Sometimes people can get nostalgic about people they admire and know or played ball with or whatever and are blind to what is really good for an event.

Rogers was good this year. His contributions to southeast Kentucky have really helped economic growth.
Coach Roy Kidd was born in Corbin, grew up in Corbin, and had just been inducted earlier in the year into College Football's Hall of Fame. He had become the 7th coach to win 300 games. Just like sports, business requires a competitive spirit and a game plan.
If you had attended you would have heard a good talk about some of the same leadership characteristics in sports and business.

Coach Kidd was not there to gain votes from anyone. He didn't come in and brag about his outstanding accomplishments. We had a much greater turnout to hear Roy than was there to hear Congressman Rogers.

He grew up in East Corbin and he is still one of Corbin's all time top achievers. If you want to criticize me that is ok, but show your respect Coach Roy Kidd.

Bob Terrell, Sr.

I also went back to review the newspapers about Coach Kidd's appearance at the banquet. Charles Wynn, President of Wynn's Fire Equipment was honored as the Entrepreneur of the Year. The Lorene Hodge award was presemted tp Betty Hamilton for her contribution to the areas Fine Arts Programs, Ed Hacker, postumuously for his business and civic contributions, Corbin City Utilities, and Gail Frederick. There were other businesses recognized. It was a big evening and there were excellent articles in each newspaper. Politics was not part of the evening. Appreciation was the theme of the evening.
Bob Terrell, Sr.

Date: Nov 24, 2007

Hal Rogers and Roy Kidd are about in the same book if you ask me. Neither one should have been the keynote speaker at an industrial banquet. Who is this Lorene Hodge? I have only been around here for six years. Was she an industrial leader?

Date: Nov 25, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Hal Rogers and Roy Kidd are about in the same book if you ask me. Neither one should have been the keynote speaker at an industrial banquet. Who is this Lorene Hodge? I have only been around here for six years. Was she an industrial leader?

Yes its not just about sports! I bet if you asked the majority of school children and the corbin community very few would even know the name Lorene Hodge! This may be because she is up in years and retired for some years now.

Date: Nov 25, 2007

Why have many Business related conventions invited sports figures like Lou Holtz, Roger Staubach, the late Coach Paul "Bear" Bryant, Cal Ripken, and others to speak at their programs?

Because they are well known, and because in their field there are similar characteristics to being successful in business. It can be a motivational experience for those who attend.

Coach Roy Kidd had just gone into the College Football Hall of Fame and his speech at the Industrial Appreciation Banquet was one on comparing success in athletics to success in business. He was there to help honor the Entrepreneur of the Year, Charles Wynn. The Entrepreneur of the Year was a top feature of the Appreciation Banquest.

The people who attended the Banquet when Roy Kidd was the speaker thoroughly enjoyed the evening.

Who was Lorene Hodge? She was a key person who worked with business and the community on Economic Development, the Chamber, and was an early important person in the growth and development of NIBROC. Some years ago leaders in our area wanted to recognize her important accomplishments and decided to name this award in her honor. She deserved that recognition but she does not deserve her name to be questioned in a negative way by any of you.
She did not go out and solicit that award to be named in her honor.

Some of you are raising questions about one of Corbin's most outstanding success stories, Roy Kidd, and about a loyal and dedicated employee who was in there pitching when there was little money and the going was tough. If some of you don't like me give me hell, don't give it to deserving people like Coach Kidd and Lorene Hodge.

Bob Terrell, Sr.

-- Edited by Bob Terrell (Sr.) at 00:32, 2007-11-26

Date: Nov 25, 2007

Its not about hating someone. Its just I am tired of when someone, or group puts on an event in Corbin, people in this community just want to sit back a complain. What about making suggestions now for next years events instead of waiting a week or even a month before. These events are planned in advanced. Its the same ole thing, Corbin needs to wake up and stop being this little petty small town we are.

Date: Nov 25, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Its not about hating someone. Its just I am tired of when someone, or group puts on an event in Corbin, people in this community just want to sit back a complain. What about making suggestions now for next years events instead of waiting a week or even a month before. These events are planned in advanced. Its the same ole thing, Corbin needs to wake up and stop being this little petty small town we are.

Lets expand on this a little.

Carpenter could have put out the agenda weeks or months ahead of the banquet. But he didn't. And Estep, with his years of experience in dealing with this event, could have advised Bruce that he needed to put out the schedule of events, or pointed out he neglected to have the two awards he left out. But, he didn't. I wonder why?

We would have known then he had decided NOT to have an Entrepreneur of the Year or give the Lorene Hodge Award. Then, we could have done something about it. But, other than reading Hal Rogers' name all over the place, or seeing a schedule of events, even in his supporting mentor's weekly newspaper, we saw nothing. NOTHING about the other guests and awards.

Bruce Carpenter is where he is now because of people like Lorene Hodge. Lorene broke ground for all of us in those areas, so we had a foundation to stand on when we kept the faith going. And not only that, but to have a woman with the responsibility she had, in those days back in the 50's and 60's, is a truly outstanding feat in itself which should be recognized. In that respect alone, I'm surprised we don't have more women writing here and bringing that up. Does that mean that the tri county women just go along and not say anything?

Complain, you're darn right I'll complain. I thought it was taken care of like it had been been in previous years. I didn't know a pair of horse's tails like Carpenter and Estep would take it upon themselves to totally change and alienate the Industrial Appreciation Banquet like they did. Oh, and since Estep mentioned it in his article, we'll throw Carpenters assistant Ms. Rich in there too. She was right there beside him, helping with the plans and schedule. You know she had looked at the previous years events and awards and saw those catagories being honored.

I wonder what politicial action figure Carpenter will invite next year. I guess it'll depend on the elections, won't it.

And you mentioned suggestions for next year! Read the NIBROC Suggestions for 2008 thread on this board. There's some good suggestions on there. Not all are usable, but, people put them on there. Ms Rich addressed some of them right after they were written in a letter to the editor of both papers. All she had to say was negative comments about some of them, she neglected to mention any of the good ones. Read the thread, and tell us what you think. Maybe one of the best suggestions for next year is for Ms Rich to find another job. The 2008 nibroc meetings should be starting in january or february, not far off. It'll be interesting to see how it goes.

And the poster 3 up is right, I'd agree none of the school kids today know who Lorene is, or her accomplishments. Even more, few of the present teachers will know her. They don't know who Harry Taylor, Ossie Burch, or Zeke Perkins are either, but, the awards given in their honor are given for accomplishments in the past. Maybe we need to add an elective class at the high school on "Corbin History: Our Heritage, old and new." We could even have locals come in for lectures, Allen Dizney, Don Estep, Bill Crook, Bob Terrell, Paul Pietrowski, Cotton Adams, Dave Huff, Don and Bruce Barton, and others that lived corbin history. (no they're not old, they are the only ones left that know the history)

Sorry for this big rant, but, this is a subject dear to me.

And before someone says it, No, I'm not one of the Terrells.

Date: Nov 25, 2007

You hit on something very important. Yes the new year is upon us. Its time for all committees to post meeting times and schedules so we can show up to voice our opinions. I plan to attend. I hope all the rest of the thread readers and writers attend who keep making suggestions. Then we can see if they take our suggestions seriously.