NIBROC

Date: Feb 4, 2006

NIBROC

Date: Feb 11, 2006

NIBROC is a pain to work at, and the guy that ownes it (forget his name, big heavy guy) is a bigger pain. I will never volunteer again.

salvationagency · New Member

Does anyone know who to contact about entertainment at this years NIBROC?

Date: Feb 13, 2006

We have volunteered at Nibroc for the past 4 years. We have donated a total of close to 1000 hours at the Nibroc Festival. We do so because we want the residents of Corbin and the surrounding area to have a nice festival to enjoy. We have worked with Bruce Carpenter (that's his name by the way) and have found him to be very helpful. What many people don't realize is that Mr. Carpenter donated his time to the Nibroc festival for many years. It was only last year that he was compensated for his work. We are very proud of Nibroc. We work long hours there and hear lots of comments. Most people are very pleased with our festival. However, you can't please everyone. Please don't let someone tell you how the festival is or what it is like to volunteer. Come join us and make up your own mind.

Signed,

The City Girls,

Roberta Webb, Dorotha Weber and Erin Blount

Date: Feb 14, 2006

I'll ask also - does anyone know who to contact about entertainment at NIBROC?

Administrator · Senior Member

The contact person is Bruce Carpenter at the Corbin Chamber of Commerce, telephone number (606) 528-6390.

Date: Feb 17, 2006

Nibroc festival is one of the most anticipated events in our city each year. Where else can you see some of the past, present, and future stars of the music industry for free? Our corporate sponsors are the best, and our volunteers work long hours for free to see that everyone enjoys the Nibroc.

As the City girls said, come and join us.

Thank you,

Marlon Sams

Greater Corbin Chamber of Commerce President

Date: Feb 20, 2006

I believe the NIBROC Festival belongs to the merchants and businesses and people of the Corbin area. They should have more involvement in the selection of the program and entertainment.

William · New Member

Anonymous wrote:

I sometimes wonder if some of the money Corbin spends on NIBROC could be better spent on other projects and needs.

Just curious ... when you say the money Corbin spends, do you mean money spent by the City of Corbin or money spent by Nibroc sponsors?

Date: May 19, 2006

Corbin wouldn't be the same without Nibroc. It's the highlight of the year it always takes me back to my childhood when we used to save pepsi bottles and turn them in to Piggly Wiggly every year and that's how we got our Nibroc money..... Bruce Carpenter does a great job with little help. We should thank him instead of being negative all the time. He's done a good job for years.

Date: May 21, 2006

Not to take anything away from anybody, but NIBROC is hardly a one-man show. Dozens of volunteers work many, many hours, some throughout the year, to help put NIBROC together and to assure the event runs as smoothly as possible. To say that Bruce Carpenter has hardly any help is a slight to all of us who volunteer our time, and we already get very little thanks for our efforts as it is. Don't forget the Corbin PD also.

I must also comment that when I read in the newspaper that $30,000 is needed for 4 days of stage and sound equipment rental for NIBROC, I have to agree with a posting several weeks back that said they wondered if some of the money Corbin spends on NIBROC could be better spent on other projects and needs. $30,000 for 4 days of stage and sound equipment is extremely expensive compared to what other sound companies charge. Just look on the internet and call around to compare. Figure 5 years at $25,000 per year - $125,000 would pay for our own sound equipment and more.

$125,000 for 20 days of stage and sound equipment rental.

$30,000 for 4 days of rental this year, while the average annual family income in our area is around $20,000. $30K would buy a lot of computers for our schools, help pay for some of the salaries that were layed off at city hall and other city jobs, pay for thousands of meals for the hungry and less privlidged, and much more.

Sometimes you have to take a step back and think about doing what is right. NIBROC can be just as successful for CORBIN without some of the excessive expenses.

Date: May 22, 2006

Nibroc is all we got why do you need to bash it cause it great. Kansas was awesome - rock on.

Date: Jul 11, 2006

We need $30,000 worth of sound equipment for Trick Pony and Blackfoot? It better be The Rolling Stones or Shania Twain on Friday night.

Date: Jul 11, 2006

The people in Corbin should be thankful the city and merchants have the resources and sponsors to bring such great entertainment (as in past years The Temptations) to NIBROC. The festival is free to everyone no matter what their economical background. Considering the massive number of people who attend and spent their hard earned money, $30,000 is not much to pay for a sound system and stage setup. Where is the posting that says how much revenue the festival brings to the city? I live in Cincinnati and attend the festival with my family. We look forward to it every year. Consider the revenue for Corbin from just my family and then multiply by thousands: Hotel, Meals, Gasoline, Souvenirs, Sightseeing and then the money we spent at the festival. To see some of the acts that are brought to NIBROC, in Cincinnati you would have to pay $35, $50, $85 and up for one ticket. As a family we would rather go to NIBROC, spend the money and have a better time.

As the saying goes, "You have to spend mony to make money".

Enjoy what you have. NIBROC is a unique festival, the Only One Of It's Kind.

Date: Jul 11, 2006

Oh My! 30K is a drop in the bucket compared to what we bring in! Business absolutley booms for Corbin during Nibroc, wish we could get some actual estimates from the City or Maybe Mr. Carpenter on the actual Economic Impact?

Bet it's 1M plus.

Bruce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let us know.

Great Job on Nibroc----JUST GREAT!!!

Date: Jul 11, 2006

Anonymous wrote:

Oh My! 30K is a drop in the bucket compared to what we bring in! Business absolutley booms for Corbin during Nibroc, wish we could get some actual estimates from the City or Maybe Mr. Carpenter on the actual Economic Impact?
Bet it's 1M plus.
Bruce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let us know.
Great Job on Nibroc----JUST GREAT!!!

Oh My! We certainly are not financial wizards, are we? You might want to ask some downtown merchants whether their business "Absolutely Booms" during NIBROC, and even if your dream came true and NIBROC added $1 million to the local economy, does that make it OK to spend $30,000 for a $15,000 job?

Date: Jul 12, 2006

Not sure why my last posting was removed (must have ruffled someone's feathers) but I'll repeat part of what I said: If what I read in the local newspaper is true, $30,000 for 4 days of sound and stage eqiupment is a ripoff.

Regarding the comments someone posted about seeing some of the NIBROC acts in a city like Cincinnati and that these acts would command ticket prices of $35, $50, $85 and up per ticket, I defy you to show me one NIBROC act over the past 10 years that has performed at a major music venue in Cincinnati, let alone for $50, $85 or more per ticket - especially general admission. Obviously you have an inside track to the "VIP" seats from someone, but for 99.99% of the attendees, NIBROC is general admission, so only a select few "tickets" or seats approach any kind of real value.

Trick Pony and Blackfoot are somewhat talented groups in their own right, but don't make it sound like Aerosmith or Shania Twain are coming to town. Blackfoot is a $5 to $10 cover charge at a bar in Knoxville or Lexington (look at their tour stops on their website), and Trick Pony plays mostly County Fairs and festivals. Their only show listed on Ticketmaster is in NY with a $20 General Admission and performing with two other bands.

When you start throwing out $85 per person comments, you need to think twice. My comments are not necessarily knocking the past or present talent, but overpaying for sound equipment and talent does not help Corbin, it's merchants or NIBROC sponsors.

Date: Jul 12, 2006

I have asked several Downtown folks about this along with the REST of the town that benefits from Nibroc, most all do extremly well, sure there are some that do not do very well but net net sir the town certainly does well, are you sugesting we stop Nibroc? Ask this qustion "What would happen if there were NO Nibroc"? You really would have many merchants upset!

Now---As far as paying too much for sound & stage equipment or general set up, have you offerd your services to Mr. Carpenter to negotiate a cheaper rate? I know Bruce would certainly listen if you could save the City 50% or more, again offer your services if you can help.

Now the Groups you just mentioned, you certainly seem to employ selective thinking here, sure some of the acts are not GREAT anymore, but you must have been over at Laurel Lake in one of the caves when Blake Shelton played to 25,000 people. Try and buy a ticket to see ole Blake and let me know what it would cost? The city would have raked in thousands of dollars had they charged admission, but the 25,000 got to see this act FREE!

My advice, if your this concerned over sound & stage fee's then again offer your services to help get the Nibroc Commitee a cheaper rate, if your upset over the level of Entertainment feel free to run on up to Cincy or down to Nashville and see the group of your choice for whatever price you want to pay.

Date: Jul 12, 2006

I don't think the poster is questioning NIBROC and it's positive effects on the city - if he is then he's wrong - but the costs do seem high. And your figures of 25,000 at Blake Shelton, $1 million in business and $85 tickets are slight exagerations to say the least - try 5,000 in attendance, $250,000 in business and $20 tickets. In fact, I read the other post and decided to look at Ticketmaster myself, and you can see Blake Shelton and Trace Atkins in Detroit at a real concert venue for $17.00 per ticket.

Date: Jul 12, 2006

My Point about Blake Shelton was that it was a Massive crowd, read back throgh the times-tribune on their estimates that night, one of the largest crowds ever, estimates went from 10K to 30K depending on who you listen to, again both Papers had estimates. I have never said anything about $85 Dollar tickets, that's another poster.

Too much speculation here, once again if the Poster has expertise in these areas of procuring stage equipment and or any cost of putting on this show then by all means present your plan to the Nibroc Commitee or Mr. Carpenter so we can all save some money. Unfortunatley what you think to be somewhat high or not high is purely speculation unless you have expertise in this field.

No question 30K is alot of money and no question the folks paying it out would like the cost to be much less so they have more flexiabilty with their funding, AGAIN, if you have a plan that will save $$$$$ please present it, put your detailed plan here so we can all see it.

Not sure what the Economic Impact is for the city but once again I am sure the Chamber Of Commerce has those figures and or some decent estimates of the Business Impact for the community, I did say 1 Million, that may or may not be the case, once again speculation on my part but we do know the city and community get a sizeable bump, maybe the Chamber can shed some light here?

Speculating once again is dangerous, we thought the price of Gallon of Gas was high at 2.25 a Gallon this time last year, things certainly changed over 1-year now didn't they. If folks have better ways of procuring resources they should and need to get involved, anytime there are possible cost savings and monies that can be re-directed and or saved it would be a boost to anyone or any entity doing business, simply making statements about speculative costings on whether it's too high or too low is pointless unless you again have facts & data that in fact support a better way, again if you have that info then let's see it-------I'm with ya and am waiting for your Ideas.

PS--$17 Dollars on Ticket Master only tells about 1/2 of the story, any concert you attend has many add on's just like anything else. I saw Blake last year in nashville and the bare bones price was around $75 Bucks by the time I got out (The ticket itself was $22), an not counting my Gas & Travel to Nashville from Corbin.

Seeing Acts for Free is still a Bargin wouln't you say?

Date: Jul 14, 2006

I do not know Bruce Carpenter, or many other people involved with all of nibroc, but after talking with and meeting some of the above people mentioned. Seems to me nibroc is a great success every year. some of you on this website keeping knocking the entertainment. Where else can you go to see this type of entertainment without being charged? My wife and two children are looking forward to listening to trick pony. One comment was they are bar acts, go to www.trickpony.com.... they have 2 albums and have received awards fom academy of country and american musics awards, i album is already gold, top new vocal group of the year, favorite new country artist. open for acts such as Hank Williams Jr., Kid Rock, Montgomery-Gentry, and they are up for top vocal group in country this year. Seems to me the nibroc group does pretty good with all aspects of nibroc. Plus Blackfoot is no slouch group either... If you dont like what is happening the week of Nibroc, take a vacation that week... Once again great job all who are involved.. you give my family an oppotunity to enjoy something each night that we could not pay for 4 nights in a row.... God bless everyone.......

Date: Jul 14, 2006

Great Points Sir---You are correct as you can not go anywhere and see this type of entertainment for free!!

One last Point to an earlier posting: Be careful comparing Business Operating Costs to People's annual Salaries in this area or anywhere, no question 30K is alot of money and equals what most folks make in a year around here, but once again that is not quite a rational or fair comaprison. Many Plants or Business's unfortunatley have to spend money to make it, I have personally seen many an entity spend 100K on office furniture and the poor folks in the plant do not even get a raise and or a very small increase. But the cost of keeping your accountants and admin folks is very expensive and enables companies to run.

This is very similar to Nibroc, The Laurel County Fair, Chicken Festival Etc...... The cost of setting these Events up is staggering but unfortunatley the cost of doing Business. Research a little more and you will find alot of this stuff with the Major Corporations as they release their Quarterly Business Reports. Capiltalism is great but has a somewhat ugly side at times.

Date: Jul 14, 2006

Nobody is questioning the concept of Nibroc, or saying that Nibroc shouldn't take place. However, the example you use of the company that buys $100,000 worth of furniture is really a poor one. Just because the company wants to keep it's "Accounting Staff" happy with nice furniture, possibly at the expense of raises for the factory workers as you put it, does that mean the office manager should spend $100,000 on furniture that could be bought for $50,000? Just because an organization is successful, such as Nibroc, does that mean they no longer have to be smart with their finances and expenses?

As far as Trick Pony, I believe the poster, or posters, were not objecting to Trick Pony per say, but replying to a previous poster who stated that seeing these entertainers would cost as much as $85 or more on tour, and that somehow justifies $30k for 4 days rental of sound and stage equipment. If you look at their tour schedule they, as well as past acts at Nibroc, have never commanded those types of inflated ticket costs. Trick Pony is playing mostly free shows throughout the country, similar to Nibroc.

Is it great to see free concerts? Of course it is. Is NIBROC a success? Sure it is. Does that justify spending money unwisely? No.

Of course you have to invest money to make money, but do you buy stocks, bonds, real estate, or misc commodities at twice their value? I hope not.

Date: Jul 14, 2006

Once again you specualte that this money is poorly spent, where are your facts and figures proving that point, show everyone and make your point? Where are your estimates that show they could have did this cheaper? Show us or are you just upset with someone?? You keep complaining about how the money was not spent right but show NO alternative plan?? Show us a cost breakdown of how this could have been done better, by a different Company, different contractors etc??????.

And on the example of the company who spends 100K, that happens every day, go on line and look over EXXon/Mobil and ANY other top ten companies in the world's annual report, take the time to look at their line items expenses, it clearly shows them if you dig a little. You think that examples bad, you aint seeen nothin!

You use alot of Emotional Bravado but can't seem to back anything up with Fact & Figures.

Date: Jul 14, 2006

Is it great to see free concerts? Of course it is. Is NIBROC a success? Sure it is. Does that justify spending money unwisely? No.

OK--Then SHOW us that this money was spent unwisley, show your estimates.

Date: Jul 14, 2006

I beleive that nibroc is a great thing i missed last years but was there the year before when Blake was there i plan on returning this year and for many years to come i been trying to see Blake in concert around the chicago area were i live now and i can't get tickets for less than 30.00 a seat here i plan on returning to the corbin area to live agian soon and i will be more than happy to volunteer my time for nibroc. my kids ask me all the time when we going back to nibroc they have been to many free festivals and they think nibroc is the best so far

thank you for having a great town that offers something as good as nibroc

Buddy

Date: Jul 15, 2006

You made a statement about - justify spending money unwisely for Nibroc. I know every member on the Corbin Chamber and if they thought it was unwise they would not have agreed with Bruce. It seems to me and a few other posters comments that a certain poster on this board has a problem with certain people and decisions that happen in Corbin. If you dont like Bruce, city officials, candidates, restaurants, and our City. Go somewhere else and live.....

Stop, wait, the poster cant do that - you work and (get paid) for the Corbin tourism Board promoting their website, seems to me some of the things you say on one site sure contradict promoting on the other. Our they aware of this? I dont think so.........

Ill leave with this... we work hard for everything in Corbin.......remember that next time you take a sip of pretend starbucks coffee............

Corbin always has and will be a great place to live.............