Williams vs. Fletcher, Round 1

Date: Jun 10, 2007

RE: Williams vs. Fletcher, Round 1

Date: Jun 10, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Oh yes, when all these bad Republicans go away the Democtats who in spite of terrible Republican officials still can ot get elected nationwide are gonna come and save everyone.

The Black Cloud will go away, gas prices will fall, everyone will have a job, right. The Democrats should have massive majorities in both houses of congress and have Bush by the collar and the same with Fletcher, yet their left Wing pals are so liberal they can't even get elected.

it would not surprise me one bit if they (Dems) do not blow this opportunity against fletcher.

All this Baloney about how bad things are is also a crock, I can name you several Local & Regional Democratic leaders that seem to be doing quite well for themselves and their pals?

If you can name several, why don't you? Name the local (there are none) and regional Democratic leaders who are "doing quite well" as you put it by friends getting them jobs in Frankfort they are not qualified for, land deals, etc.

The "Baloney" isn't about a handful of politians doing well, its about the people of Whitley County and SE Kentucky in general. With an average family income of $20,000 in Whitley County, and an occupational tax to help bail out the $18 million in debt, how can you say its Baloney? Good thing the "Williams, Rogers & Miller" Expo Center will save the day.

You've proved that the "I'm OK, my neighbor doesn't matter" mentality is going strong in the Tri-County area.

Date: Jun 10, 2007

Let's start with your Fuzzy math & some Facts, what has been the Ave income Level for folks over the last 35 years before fletcher took office & the dems were in control, tell us?

That's right it's never been higher than the 20K we have posted today and your pals in Frankfort like Ford, Carroll, Wilkinson, Collins, Jones and the rest of the left wing did absolutley nothing.

The first person in this area I would start with is you, sign your name, tell us your Income & what party your touting, then let folks make up their own minds.

Date: Jun 11, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Let's start with your Fuzzy math & some Facts, what has been the Ave income Level for folks over the last 35 years before fletcher took office & the dems were in control, tell us?

That's right it's never been higher than the 20K we have posted today and your pals in Frankfort like Ford, Carroll, Wilkinson, Collins, Jones and the rest of the left wing did absolutley nothing.

The first person in this area I would start with is you, sign your name, tell us your Income & what party your touting, then let folks
make up their own minds.

First, the Republican majority in Washington, DC voted a tax cut for the wealthiest Americans while our men and women were in a war with inferior equipment to protect them.

Second. the Republican Party has consistently opposed increases in the minimum wage.

Third, jobs go overseas, and our corporations move overseas taking with them tax dollars and more jobs.

Fourth, the Bush-Cheney team have been worse than in any so called liberals in getting our nation into deep debt. It is a debt that our grandchildren and their grandchildren will have to pay off.

Fifth, our people have the highest energy prices in history and their wages continue to be stagnent.

Sixth, 50 milion Americans don't have medical insurance, up 10 million since the Bush-Cheney team took over.

Seventh, Fletcher was in Congress and part of that Bush-Cheney team that failed the American people.

Eighth, the liberal/conservative terminology is a bunch of baloney.
The true test according to my bible is to love the Lord with all your heart, and all your mind, and all your soul, and love thy neighbor as thyself. Whe cares about the poor? Who cares about the homeless? Who cares about those who don't have medical insurance? Which party started Social Security during the depression of the late 1920-30's? Who started Medicare?

There are some fine Republicans and I don't claim all Democrats are saints. But Newt Gingirich is a great example of a hypocrite. While he was casting stones at Bill Clinton during the Monica issue, Gingerich was having an affair with his secretary. After he left the job as speaker, Gingerich married this lady as his third wife. He surprised his first wife years earlier by telling her he was leaving her during her recovery from cancer. Like many other holier than thou Republicans he is a phony.

Date: Jun 11, 2007

Incredible the way your convincing yourself that all of these problems are Republican.

I like the way you side stepped my direct questions to you also. I'll ask again just to show your Bias.

With all those issues you just rattled off where were your Democrat's in the House, the Senate, the state house, the state senate?????

Many of the issues regarding the poor & median income are state issues in which your pals had control of for 35 years before Fletcher took office, how come the 20K per Household did not rise under any of the democrats during their 35 year rein?

Minimum Wage: The Congress can pass any Bill they like if they have the Votes to override the President, your pals can't even get a Majority to give anyone a slap on the wrist much less pass a Minimum Wage increase, the state also has the power to raise this on their own as California has several times, with a 2.5 to 1 Dem to rep ratio in the state they still have not been able to do nothing?

If all your points were even anywhere near true your candidates would have been elected and Bills passed, unfortunatley the people continue to reject the "let's raise Minimum wage on the one hand and $400 Dollar haircuts on the other"

When Pres. Clinton left office 39 Million Americans had No Health Benefits, When pres Clinton was in office he signed Nafta with Mexico which has been a total disaster!!! And you know it, maybe had he not signed this bill many of our jobs would not have went over the border, not overseas as you claim.

The Chinese Economy Trippled in size under Clinton and we also sold them High Tech Military Equipment that had always been off limites.

You babble about the poor while John Edwards gets $400 Dollar haircuts and lives in a 12 Million Dollar mansion, the same thing for the Kennedy Clan, these Hypocritical points are why the Democrats can not get total control of Congress and usually lose the White House.

Interesting how you are using situational ethics in the Baloney your pushing out and how you avoid the democtatic record over the past 15 years. This babble your pushing out is the very stuff that will help Fletcher and his gang say "I told ya so" the democrats will be worse than what ya got now!

Date: Jun 11, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Incredible the way your convincing yourself that all of these problems are Republican.

I like the way you side stepped my direct questions to you also. I'll ask again just to show your Bias.

With all those issues you just rattled off where were your Democrat's in the House, the Senate, the state house, the state senate?????

Friend, you did not respond to any of the problems our nation has gotten deeper into since President Bush became President. While our troops are dying and being maimed did we give the wealthiest people in America a tax cut? Huh, Huh, did we?

Did our leaders send enough troops to Iraq to provide security after we won the quick war? Is there any security after over 4 years?

In the 5th year of the War the President decides we need a War CZAR. And he picks a three star General to be the leader of the war while we already have four star Generals higher ranked than he is. President Roosevelt led us through World War II which was fought across the world from his wheel chair. He was Commander-in-chief and that is what Bush is supposed to be, but he can't provide the leadership our troops deserve.

Have we gone into debt overhead since 2001? Huh, Huh, have we? Who was the President and which party had a majority in the Senate and House? The Democrats just won back the Senate and House at the end of last year.

Have gasoline prices gone up to the highest levels in our history under Bush? Huh, Huh, have they?

Were you happy the way our leaders responded to Katrina? Were you, were you?

Do you believe our nation should lower ourselves to the dirty level of our enemies and use torture and tell the world we no longer will abide by the Geneva Accords?

Do you like it when your Government gives no-bid contracts to enrich the businesses that VP Cheney was involved in prior to becoming VP? Haliburton and Cheney are married.

Do you like to group of con artists which includes Libby, Rove, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Cunningham, Abramoff, Delay, R. Reed, Wolfowitz, and the others who have been in the pocket of the lobby groups?

I am not saying all the Democrats are without sin. But these past six years have been the biggest mess we have ever had in the US and in Kentucky.

Many of the issues regarding the poor & median income are state issues in which your pals had control of for 35 years before Fletcher took office, how come the 20K per Household did not rise under any of the democrats during their 35 year rein?

Minimum Wage: The Congress can pass any Bill they like if they have the Votes to override the President, your pals can't even get a Majority to give anyone a slap on the wrist much less pass a Minimum Wage increase, the state also has the power to raise this on their own as California has several times, with a 2.5 to 1 Dem to rep ratio in the state they still have not been able to do nothing?

If all your points were even anywhere near true your candidates would have been elected and Bills passed, unfortunatley the people continue to reject the "let's raise Minimum wage on the one hand and $400 Dollar haircuts on the other"

When Pres. Clinton left office 39 Million Americans had No Health Benefits, When pres Clinton was in office he signed Nafta with Mexico which has been a total disaster!!! And you know it, maybe had he not signed this bill many of our jobs would not have went over the border, not overseas as you claim.

The Chinese Economy Trippled in size under Clinton and we also sold them High Tech Military Equipment that had always been off limites.

You babble about the poor while John Edwards gets $400 Dollar haircuts and lives in a 12 Million Dollar mansion, the same thing for the Kennedy Clan, these Hypocritical points are why the Democrats can not get total control of Congress and usually lose the White House.

Interesting how you are using situational ethics in the Baloney your pushing out and how you avoid the democtatic record over the past 15 years. This babble your pushing out is the very stuff that will help Fletcher and his gang say "I told ya so" the democrats will be worse than what ya got now!

Date: Jun 11, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Incredible the way your convincing yourself that all of these problems are Republican.

I like the way you side stepped my direct questions to you also. I'll ask again just to show your Bias.

With all those issues you just rattled off where were your Democrat's in the House, the Senate, the state house, the state senate?????

Friend, you did not respond to any of the problems our nation has gotten deeper into since President Bush became President. While our troops are dying and being maimed did we give the wealthiest people in America a tax cut? Huh, Huh, did we?

Did our leaders send enough troops to Iraq to provide security after we won the quick war? Is there any security after over 4 years?

In the 5th year of the War the President decides we need a War CZAR. And he picks a three star General to be the leader of the war while we already have four star Generals higher ranked than he is. President Roosevelt led us through World War II which was fought across the world from his wheel chair. He was Commander-in-chief and that is what Bush is supposed to be, but he can't provide the leadership our troops deserve.

Have we gone into debt overhead since 2001? Huh, Huh, have we? Who was the President and which party had a majority in the Senate and House? The Democrats just won back the Senate and House at the end of last year.

Have gasoline prices gone up to the highest levels in our history under Bush? Huh, Huh, have they?

Were you happy the way our leaders responded to Katrina? Were you, were you?

Do you believe our nation should lower ourselves to the dirty level of our enemies and use torture and tell the world we no longer will abide by the Geneva Accords?

Do you like it when your Government gives no-bid contracts to enrich the businesses that VP Cheney was involved in prior to becoming VP? Haliburton and Cheney are married.

Do you like to group of con artists which includes Libby, Rove, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Cunningham, Abramoff, Delay, R. Reed, Wolfowitz, and the others who have been in the pocket of the lobby groups?

I am not saying all the Democrats are without sin. But these past six years have been the biggest mess we have ever had in the US and in Kentucky.

Many of the issues regarding the poor & median income are state issues in which your pals had control of for 35 years before Fletcher took office, how come the 20K per Household did not rise under any of the democrats during their 35 year rein?

Minimum Wage: The Congress can pass any Bill they like if they have the Votes to override the President, your pals can't even get a Majority to give anyone a slap on the wrist much less pass a Minimum Wage increase, the state also has the power to raise this on their own as California has several times, with a 2.5 to 1 Dem to rep ratio in the state they still have not been able to do nothing?

If all your points were even anywhere near true your candidates would have been elected and Bills passed, unfortunatley the people continue to reject the "let's raise Minimum wage on the one hand and $400 Dollar haircuts on the other"

When Pres. Clinton left office 39 Million Americans had No Health Benefits, When pres Clinton was in office he signed Nafta with Mexico which has been a total disaster!!! And you know it, maybe had he not signed this bill many of our jobs would not have went over the border, not overseas as you claim.

The Chinese Economy Trippled in size under Clinton and we also sold them High Tech Military Equipment that had always been off limites.

You babble about the poor while John Edwards gets $400 Dollar haircuts and lives in a 12 Million Dollar mansion, the same thing for the Kennedy Clan, these Hypocritical points are why the Democrats can not get total control of Congress and usually lose the White House.

Interesting how you are using situational ethics in the Baloney your pushing out and how you avoid the democtatic record over the past 15 years. This babble your pushing out is the very stuff that will help Fletcher and his gang say "I told ya so" the democrats will be worse than what ya got now!

How, pray tell, could any group be any worse than the ones we have now? The world was with us after 9/11 and now they are all against us. Please tell me how it could be any worse when a small part of our population are serving three and four tours in Iraq and their framilies are going through a horrible time in fear and worry about them. And here in America we cut the taxes for the high and mighty and go on like life is tranquil and good. Please tell me what is better now than it was six years ago.

Date: Jun 12, 2007

Ok, hot shot, let me tell you the things that are better.

1. My Haliburton Stock has gone sky high.
2. My energy stocks have gone higher than the big dipper.
3. My stocks in Military Product Corporations have gone higher than Mars.
4. The taxes for the few of us who have most of the wealth have gone down.
5. My family has the best type of Medical Insurance and we don't have to worry about the 50 million Americans who don't have medical insurance.
6. My friends with close ties to Government have made a fortune off of the Katrina rebuild effort. And the money keeps coming in.

Quit criticizing our Administration. They have improved these important things in the past six years.

Date: Jun 12, 2007

Wow! It's truly amazing to see Folks walking down the Yellow Brick Road in the Land of Oz, let's look at just a few of the silly statements here:

before 9/11 we were all Loved in the world? I'm afraid not, the same group in 1993 tried to blow up the trade Center under President Clinton, they just did not place the Explosives Correctly according to published reports or the center would have in fact fell.

If you think the World Loved us before 9/11 you apparently have never been out of Corbin (Which I certainly believe). This feud has been simmering since the 6-Day war in the Middle East 40 years ago, or do you even know what I am referring too, if you do then you may get it.

* Lot's of Folks have made money off katrina, look closely at the funding awards the Feds gave to Louisiana and you'll see most were given to companies tied to the democratic Gove blanco & Sen Mary Landreu, both Democtats, I guess check mate on this one, right?

*Your Family may in Fact have good health Coverage, this is an issue Both parties can not seem to hash out, one issue is the Medical Lobby In DC and oh by the way all these Doctors are not all Republican, when it comes to their money both parties are fighting Universal Health Care, we also have added 20 Million Illigeal Aliens to this mix that are not even counted yet, thanks to your Liberal pals along the Border we have let half of Mexico in here and now YOU are gonna have to pay for it.

*The Tax's for the wealthy have always been hard to Pin down, People like Bill Gates and the Super Rich can put money In many different Countries like they have for 150 Years, Steve Forbes pushed a Flat tax many years ago to even the palying field, the Republican and your Democratic Buddies all ran from this plan like the Plague, not a Single Democratic agreed with this idea during the time it was floated, not ONE!

* Your Energy Stocks have gone up as you continue to drive your BMW & SUV, Jet Ski's & ATV's. We consumed 400 Million Dollars of gas per Day in the USA only 2 years ago, with higher prices this number should have fell, but guess what the new number is now 1.5 Billion per day in gas Consumption. No wonder the prices keep going up, your driving cars the size of the Big Dipper.

*Hallaberton Stocks: sure they have gone up along with the Entire Stock Market of which you are Invested in, I'm sure you sent your dividends back in protest, right.

The Democrats are going to win in November (If they do not shoot their toes off) at the State & federal levels, the real situation is, these issues are not going away to we Learn to cut back on Gas usage, Create Alternative fuel Supplies and stop the Lobbyist who are controling both parties in washington, don't fall for the usual party Line crap of blaming the other side.

Date: Jun 12, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Wow! It's truly amazing to see Folks walking down the Yellow Brick Road in the Land of Oz, let's look at just a few of the silly statements here:

before 9/11 we were all Loved in the world? I'm afraid not, the same group in 1993 tried to blow up the trade Center under President Clinton, they just did not place the Explosives Correctly according to published reports or the center would have in fact fell.

If you think the World Loved us before 9/11 you apparently have
never been out of Corbin (Which I certainly believe). This feud has been simmering since the 6-Day war in the Middle East 40 years ago, or do you even know what I am referring too, if you do then you may get it.

* Lot's of Folks have made money off katrina, look closely at the funding awards the Feds gave to Louisiana and you'll see most were given to companies tied to the democratic Gove blanco & Sen Mary Landreu, both Democtats, I guess check mate on this one, right?

*Your Family may in Fact have good health Coverage, this is an issue Both parties can not seem to hash out, one issue is the Medical Lobby In DC and oh by the way all these Doctors are not all Republican, when it comes to their money both parties are fighting Universal Health Care, we also have added 20 Million Illigeal Aliens to this mix that are not even counted yet, thanks to your Liberal pals along the Border we have let half of Mexico in here and now YOU are gonna have to pay for it.

*The Tax's for the wealthy have always been hard to Pin down, People like Bill Gates and the Super Rich can put money In many different Countries like they have for 150 Years, Steve Forbes pushed a Flat tax many years ago to even the palying field, the Republican and your Democratic Buddies all ran from this plan like the Plague, not a Single Democratic agreed with this idea during the time it was floated, not ONE!

* Your Energy Stocks have gone up as you continue to drive your BMW & SUV, Jet Ski's & ATV's. We consumed 400 Million Dollars of gas per Day in the USA only 2 years ago, with higher prices this number should have fell, but guess what the new number is now 1.5 Billion per day in gas Consumption. No wonder the prices keep going up, your driving cars the size of the Big Dipper.

*Hallaberton Stocks: sure they have gone up along with the Entire Stock Market of which you are Invested in, I'm sure you sent your dividends back in protest, right.

The Democrats are going to win in November (If they do not shoot their toes off) at the State & federal levels, the real situation is, these issues are not going away to we Learn to cut back on Gas usage, Create Alternative fuel Supplies and stop the Lobbyist who are controling both parties in washington, don't fall for the usual party Line crap of blaming the other side.

While you question my credentials I must repudiate you by telling you this past weekend I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express! So get off my back!

Date: Jun 16, 2007

Senator Williams is back in the soup again. According to the Lexington Herald he had a meeting with a lobby group and asked each one of them to raise $50,000 for the Republican Party. Of Course, he doesn't pay much attention to rules and regulations because after all he is Mr. Big, President of the Kentucky State Senate.

This is the greediest, most corrupt, most arrogant group of leaders in the history of Kentucky. But Fletcher will still carry Whitley County.

Date: Jun 16, 2007

OK

I'm off your back the Holiday Inn express was a good one.

Date: Sep 2, 2007

Gov. Fletcher has turned out to be one of the most liberal Governors in our history. He has been liberal in giving pardons to his cronies who break the rules. He has been liberal in using phoney photos of his opponent at a Casino table.

He has been liberal in firing employees who were on the merit program. I don't have any problem for firing someone for incompetence but firing because of politics is not good for Kentucky.

He was very liberal in trying to cut teacher's medical insurance so he could give more people to the rich and priviledged.

He has been liberal in travelling at the taxpayers expense when he goes to do Kentucky business and on the same trip conducts fund raising meetings.

It is time for a change in Kentucky and Washington, DC

Date: Oct 25, 2007

Where has Senate President David Williams been during this election? Has the relationship between Gov. Fletcher and him gotten worse?