Who's Chamber of Commerce is it ??????

Date: Aug 26, 2007

RE: Who's Chamber of Commerce is it ??????

Date: Aug 26, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

People you have to understand that the Governor was in Corbin for a Ribbon Cutting for the new expo center. It just happened to be on the same day as the Monthly chamber meeting. He was then the just speaker at the luncheon.
The governor was also the one who gave us a lot of money for our expo center. Their was no reason for the other candidates to be in Corbin.

First, I never questioned having Governor Fletcher having the opportunity to attend the ground breaking ceremony nor speaking at the luncheon.

Secondly, Governor Patton, whether you like him or not, was Governor when the Technology Center and the Exposition Center projects were initially approved.

Third, we are in the midst of an election for Governor. If Governor Fletcher is invited to speak at the Corbin Chamber of Commerce Luncheon or the Louisville Chamber of Commerce luncheon, his opponent, Steve Beshear should given an equal opportunity to present his views and plans.

How would the Republican supporters feel if our roles were switched? Would Republicans have liked to have seen Steve Beshear invited to speak at the Corbin Chamber of Commerce luncheon and Gov. Fletcher snubbed? I would have spoken up for Governor Fletcher if he had been prohibited from speaking.

What is fairness? What is equal opportunity? Does it only apply to those who are in power?

Bob Terrell, Sr.

Date: Aug 26, 2007

Yes, it is an excellent post.

And, this type of cooperation must start at the top, and be conveyed to all those around you that a cooperative spirit is now in the works, is what is important.

Frankly, when we hear from the horse's mouths, from Estep and Carpenter and Sams, that they are going to work with the city commission and Downtown Committee, then you will have a cooperative spirit.

Date: Aug 26, 2007

If these men you mentioned in your post will work together as team to help bring benefits to our area, this would be a huge plus for the City of Corbin.

These gentleman you mentioned in your post are very Talented in their own way and bring a lot of experience and creative touch to the team.

Let' see what these guys can do? Interesting team! I believe if they set their minds to do good things for us, we may have very successfull winning Team with these folks mentioned. Hat's OFF

Date: Aug 27, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

If these men you mentioned in your post will work together as team to help bring benefits to our area, this would be a huge plus for the City of Corbin.

These gentleman you mentioned in your post are very Talented in their own way and bring a lot of experience and creative touch to the team.

Let' see what these guys can do? Interesting team! I believe if they set their minds to do good things for us, we may have very successfull winning Team with these folks mentioned. Hat's OFF

What about the women involved. Their is one in particular who needs to get on the right team.

Date: Aug 27, 2007

If you look at history of these individuals, at least with two of them, teamwork has never been a part of their makeup, and likely will never be in our lifetime. Either things are done the way they want, or zero cooperation and a push for failure and sabatoge results. Its just the way it is, just look at the history. And just as they were bitter enemies a few months ago, they are close "buddies" now, and another trend we've seen - when they need something, they are all of a sudden your best friend. The whole town knows it, again, history tells us a great deal. All I have to do is remember how Bob Terrell sr was used, and then railroaded, by Carpenter and Myers.

I like what Ms. Foley said in another topic. "I hope that the voters now find themselves educated and they start making more informed decisions about who they vote for. You really only have yourselves to blame and if you never voted against them, you may as well to have voted for them. Your voice is really only heard through your votes."

This holds true with these boards also. While we might not have a vote, we can apply pressure on those that do vote by attending board meetings, writing letters and posting messages, and not putting up with having our town used as a playground for these few insecure, egotistical people. Its time to clean these boards up or we can expect more of the same, because one thing that is certain, people don't change. There are also some good people on these boards, but it is time they quit sitting in the shadows and start standing up to these few that are hurting the town's, and their board's, reputations.

Date: Aug 27, 2007

Many can guess who wrote this. Only few are against these people. Everyone knows who you are. Stop fighting against these people and acting like they are doing something bad. They are only trying to help corbin become a better place to live. You stick out like a sore thumb.

Date: Aug 27, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Many can guess who wrote this. Only few are against these people. Everyone knows who you are. Stop fighting against these people and acting like they are doing something bad. They are only trying to help corbin become a better place to live. You stick out like a sore thumb.

You are the ones who stick out like a sore thumb. You have misjudged the people. The people of Corbin and this area are not going to sit around quiet and scared and let a few control freaks run the area. We are going to speak out as people should do in a democracy.

Date: Aug 27, 2007

speak out! you also stick out with your jabs!

Date: Aug 27, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

They are only trying to help corbin become a better place to live.

you have to be kidding. like the other message said, look at the history, it speaks volumes, as do the many people they have tried to run over.

Date: Aug 27, 2007

jab! jab! Jab! We know who you are and you stick out like a sore thumb! Cry Baby Cry Baby! Sorry you are on losing team.

Date: Aug 27, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Many can guess who wrote this. Only few are against these people. Everyone knows who you are. Stop fighting against these people and acting like they are doing something bad. They are only trying to help corbin become a better place to live. You stick out like a sore thumb.

This poster got it right but we all need to be on same team!

Date: Aug 27, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

jab! jab! Jab! We know who you are and you stick out like a sore thumb! Cry Baby Cry Baby! Sorry you are on losing team.

You are upset because the people of this community are not going to put up with your crap any more. We are not crying. You are crying because you know your days as being a control freak are over. The people are speaking the truth and won't be intimidated any more.

Date: Aug 27, 2007

I wonder how "the people" feel about the controversy concerning the light at the post office. That is what is holding up progress in this town.

Date: Aug 27, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

I wonder how "the people" feel about the controversy concerning the light at the post office. That is what is holding up progress in this town.

The control freaks are holding up this type of progress.

Date: Aug 27, 2007

Instead of placing trains around town why not place signs that say No Control Freaks Allowed! That will attract tourist.

Date: Sep 6, 2007

The Chamber of Commerce in a city represents the business interests and advocates growth, expansion, and works with Governmental agencies on behalf of the people in the area.

The Corbin Chamber invited Governor Fletcher to the groundbreaking ceremony for the Exposition Center, and that was appropriate. That ceremony was really a political rally as observed by the praise heaped on Fletcher and Nighbert by contractor who introduced Governor Fletcher. The Governor who had originally approved and was in office when construction started on the Technology Center was Governor Patton. The Governor who was in office when the exposition center was first approved was Gov. Patton.

After the groundbreaking ceremony Gov. Fletcher was invited by the Chamber to address members and guests at their monthly meeting. I have no problem with that at all. He gave a partisan political speech. Inasmuch as Chamber of Commerces are supposed to do business in a way that promotes the entire community, I believe they should also have invited the opponent of Governor Fletcher, Steve Beshear. They didn't invite him to speak to one of their meetings.

There is a perception that Corbin and Whitley County is owned and controlled by the Republican Party. When the Chamber snubbed Steve Beshear that perception became a reality.

Democrat Governors provided Corbin:

1. The Tri-County Industrial Park at zero interest on the mortgage carried by the State.
2. The Regional Business Park of 600 acres with no mortgage on the land.
3. Gov. Patton led the effort to provide emergency incentives for CTA that helped them rebuild and stay in our area.
4. The Democratic administration under Gov. Jones provided us the overpass that connected Kentucky Avenue and Masters Street.
5. The Democratic Administration provided us the Bypass that connects Cumberland Gap Parkway and Cumberland Falls Highway.
6. The water system including Laurel River Dam and Cumberland Lake were built during Democratic Governor's Administrations.

It would upset me if a Republican Candidate for Governor or the US Senate was snubbed by our community and treated unfairly. And I am upset that our Chamber snubbed Steve Beshear. I believe this was a serious mistake.

Bob Terrell, Sr.

Date: Sep 7, 2007

That perception of Republican control is valid in my opinioin. The Barton and Forcht families are the most obvious about it, while most of the physicians and attornies in the area are more covert about it, as they have to depend on the community as a whole for their livlihood and their peace of mind.

When you look at the makeup of the chamber and economic development board, as well as tourism, you can see why Beshear was snubbed. Sams, the chamber chairman, really has no dog in the fight, he does what he's told. But, as usual, we'll pay the price down the road for their personal agendas.

I really don't think you need to worry about "IF" Beshear will be elected, Fletcher helps him every day with his fake ads and commercials, and his three ring circus he has working for him. I just hope Beshear can overlook this areas small time politics and check the vote count when he wins this area.

Date: Sep 7, 2007

OK

Nice Summary again from Bob T. Well written and to the point. The list is probably twice as long as this has been the first Republican Gov since the early 70"s.

Tha last poster however is grasping at straw's and again has watched too many episodes of the Sopranos. No reason to nail the two families this poster mentioned, I seriously doubt Terry Forcht even knows who Sams even is.

I would like for Sam's to show us who in fact who he has booked for all of the available Chamber time up till the November Election, probably the Texas Cat Herder Assc, The Basket Weaving Team, the Roaring 20's Plumbing Assc, all of these groups would outrank the next possible Governor, right?

My vote will stay with the Republicans but this move by Sam's and the Chamber was absolutley absurd, no secret band of families caused this or no grand conspriracy, my goodness, Sam's just flat blew it and now is too proud to admit he made a mistake.

The Real Loser here may be the City when Beshear most probably gets elected as Sam's represents Corbin. My Guess is he will not forget this snub and we may very well pay the price down the line. This is just Basic Good Business to always give High Profile Senate Races, Governors Races top Billing for both parties.

We can not have any sitting Gov from either party unhappy with our area, what an absolutley Boneheaded move.

Date: Sep 7, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Tha last poster however is grasping at straw's and again has watched too many episodes of the Sopranos. No reason to nail the two families this poster mentioned, I seriously doubt Terry Forcht even knows who Sams even is.

Sams takes his direction from Carpenter, who he folllows around like a puppy dog. Carpenter tries to involve himself in fund raising and other activities with some of the Bartons for certain republicans, and since Carpenter and Estep are going to the prom together, and Estep is Forcht's editorial writer, this isn't entirely off base.

Date: Sep 8, 2007

The poster two above has no concept of corbin and the people who truly control the politics of corbin. They must be new to the area, which isn't a problem in any way and we welcome them if they are, or they don't keep up with the behind the scenes action that goes on here. I think it would more than likely be the latter, based on their comments. Those two family names weren't thrown out there in a disrespectful manner, just as a matter of fact. If you read the local papers, both of them, you'll always see members of both families pictures with political figures many times through the year, especially now. If you don't know the connections of those two persons mentioned, then you need to do some catching up. They have the ear of not only Hal Rogers, but Mitch McConnell, David Williams, the present governor, and not to long ago, the White House. There's nothing wrong with this, this is just how things work, not only here, but all over the world.

That poster needs to get around and talk with some of the old time residents, just to learn the background of our political history. I think they'll be surprised. It goes back a long way, but it began to grow its tentacles in the early 60's and 70's. I'll leave it at that for now.

Sams does what he can, and what he's told by Carpenter and the Economic Development Board, and if they wanted to snub Beshear, then they did. I agree it was and is a mistake. I hope they'll rectify it soon.

As for the future scheduled speakers, then that poster should get on the phone and call Sams, and I'm sure he'll gladly give you the list. I talk to Sams every week, sometimes two or three times as week, and he is very open to any question or request asked of him. Between the chamber and his job, his time is very limited.

Date: Sep 8, 2007

That poster 3 above loves to talk, but offers no solutions. He's the one always wanting answers to some question, but want's someone else to do the dirty work. He never does anything himself. He's easy to follow through the board, just look for all the improperly capitalized words.

The poster also has no idea of the political alignment in this area. I agree with the person above, get out and talk to some folks that has lived here for 50 years or more, they'll tell you the stories. You'll be surprised how things work around here.

Date: Sep 8, 2007

Guys there is no conspiracy. It is what I have been saying all along. The Democratic party, natioanally and now state wide , has gotten so far out there on social issues it has scared off regular, Dem voters and Republicans who might cast a Dem vote every now and then.

Date: Sep 8, 2007

Maybe there is a conspiracy consisting of the "Good Ole Boys" who hate main streets

UK Wildcat · Senior Member

Anonymous wrote:

Guys there is no conspiracy. It is what I have been saying all along. The Democratic party, natioanally and now state wide , has gotten so far out there on social issues it has scared off regular, Dem voters and Republicans who might cast a Dem vote every now and then.

I think your "nationally" comment was squashed in the last Senate and House elections - I do believe the Dems took control as you might recall - and your "statewide" reference should be changed to "Whitley County wide". Anywhere else in the state Bob Terrell would have defeated Pat White hands down. Terrell is a devote christian, helps others, is not so far out there. Statewide Fletcher is laughed at. No, its not a comspiracy, just thank god Whitley County won't decide the Governor's race.

Date: Sep 8, 2007

You are taking this personally. Mr. Terrell is a fine man. If the National Democrat party leadership was made up of men like him the party would be in alot better shape and would get my support. However, as long as the Party is led by the likes of Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pollosi (sic) I could nver support it nor will Millions of voters in fly-over country.

Date: Sep 8, 2007

Let me get this right, the poster two or three down claims he talks with Sams Daily? Oh really? He is also saying Sam's is very open & has a Busy schedule, but yet he is too busy to Schedule Steve Beshear who will probably be the next Gov of the State. Sounds like you should stop taking up all of Sam's valuable time and let him work with the Most Important Official in this State for the next four years.

My friend I do know the Political History, and those families certainly are involved at all Levels, but there are a few more even More Powerfull than that and are related to 3/4 of Whitley and Knox County and still have overwhelming politcal power. You just touched the top of the Iceberg here!

This Thread pertains to Bob Terrell requesting a time slot for the Democrat Candidate for Governor of this State after time was given to the Republican Candidate, stop blaming the Barton's, Forcht's, Sopranos or whom ever, this could have been handled by Sam's easily, your making a Mountain out of a Molehill.

Sam's is a City Official, it's not my responsibility to ask what the Schedule of Events are, it's his responsibility to show us all why he could not meet Mr. Terrells request and who he has scheduled that outranks a Candidate for Gov?

Sam's answers to us the Public when he recieves his paycheck that is generated by the Tax Dollars of the citizens of Corbin, it's Sam's that owes us an answer!